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Posted by Lysander 10 years, 3 months ago to Government
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Looking for the most free state or country to move to. Which US state would be best? Which nation?


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  • Posted by Robbie53024 10 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Yes. The Free State Project has many of those objectives, though not to break free from the federal shackles, at least not to my understanding.
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  • Posted by $ jdg 10 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I always ROFL when I see that slogan on a license plate. Those who make them are certainly doing neither.
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  • Posted by barwick11 10 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Do you honestly think any military commander would obey that order to fire on fellow Americans? Do you think any more than 10% of the military would obey that order? There is almost zero chance of this turning into a civil war.
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  • Posted by $ jdg 10 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Neither country ever banned all guns. Canada scrapped its registration system for handguns because it didn't work. Australia still bans most handguns, but rifles and shotguns are very common (there's enough wildlife that you need them in most of the country, even if you don't hunt).
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  • Posted by $ jdg 10 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The only Americans willing to consider revolution anytime soon are the thugs in places like Ferguson. Waking them up would be bad for everyone, including them.
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  • Posted by $ jdg 10 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The trouble is that you'd be forced to fight another civil war. And the state militias are mostly kept almost as weak as the civilians, so there's no way the state could win unless a large part of the army defected to them. If the Oath Keepers ever get millions of members, it might be worth trying.
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  • Posted by johnpe1 10 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    they seem to skim about 50 percent, like with the
    dept of education and of energy and commerce... -- j

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  • Posted by Robbie53024 10 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Stealing is such a harsh term. They prefer "redistributing" from the wealthy to the poor, skimming a bit off the top for themselves and their gov't.
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  • Posted by johnpe1 10 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    they have begun that process by raising inheritance
    taxes this past week to 55 percent, if my source is
    correct. . if the feds can get away with it, they will
    steal everything. -- j

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  • Posted by Robbie53024 10 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I foresee a day (in the not too distant future, unfortunately) where real estate is going to be means tested and taxed. It will be proposed as only "fair" as those with valuable property and high wealth, but little income (earned or passive) will be targeted for re-distribution.
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  • Posted by johnpe1 10 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    our land taxes are not too bad, but yes, property
    taxes never fall;;; they rise perpetually!!! -- j

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  • Posted by Robbie53024 10 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You assume that at some point in the future, real estate won't be taxed higher than it currently is - including a "means test" based on overall wealth and/or land value.
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  • Posted by LetsShrug 10 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Well...good move, but they've already got the gun owners on a list at this point, there. :(
    It never made any sense to me that a shot gun is okay, but a hand gun isn't... do these twits not know the damage a shot gun does? And what threat is a gun on the hip of a non threatening person? It's the PERSON who's pointing it at an innocent person that's a problem...not the gun itself. The clowns are running the circus.
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  • Posted by qjdb 10 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Register the "Restricted" stuff (any handgun, shorter-barrelled stuff, "scary" stuff (AR-variants))

    Used to have to register the hunting rifles and shotguns stuff, but that was the law that got pulled out.

    So, yeah, we can't walk around with a pistol on our hip yet, but we're working towards it. The initiative that seems to be making the most headway is http://www.wildernessprotection.ca/
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  • Posted by jpellone 10 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I used to think that libertarians were way out there but lately I am thinking that they are what we need right now!!!!
    We need a state that is self sufficient such as Texas that has its own economy and can feed its people!!!
    Texas is the leader in energy.
    Texas usually votes for better governors than most other states.
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  • Posted by LetsShrug 10 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You made an assumption that we still consider CA to be part of the United States (or New York either...or CT...). :) May you keep moving more and more towards freedom. (Do you have to register them though?)
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  • Posted by qjdb 10 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Interesting. Weird how someone who "Can't own guns" owns 6.

    Yeah, there are different classifications of them, and there are mag restrictions, etc, but in the grand scheme of things it's actually easier to own a gun in Canada than it is in California.

    And we have a ton of groups that are working towards de-restricting some of the firearms, and our current Government (Conservative party), in 2013, repealed a 19-year law that made us register our "standard" rifles and shotguns. Oh yeah, and that same government refused to sign that UN Arms Treaty too.

    So, yeah, we have a bit to go, but have come a long way, and are in no way comparable to the firearms laws in UK and Oz. And our current leaders aren't scared of things that go bang.
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