You right on the individual side. I was speaking from a community perspective. A community will find it hard to exist within any state due to those compliance issues.

HI Terry! Is there enough land in your neck of the woods to be "in plain sight"? BTW....have had lots of comments on "the" bookends!

Already in the work here. Have been making acquaintance with cruising sailors for over 10 years. Within the next two years I'll be purchasing and outfitting a long-range cruiser.

Interesting. I'm exploring an offer to move my business to Golfito. Manufacturing and repairables. A need in Panama?

please enjoy the read. the sequel coming in the first half of the new year!
ok. to the gulch. to illustrate: jbrenner and many other gulchers are actively trying to make a physical gulch possible. Please check into those threads. There are gulchers who need to stay focused on their industriousness in their fields. Support and promote them is my policy. Then there are the gulchers who focus on ideas. Getting the ideas into the mainstream. Then there are other guchers who have...galted. Db and I are two, but look to shruggininargentina's posts as well. There are many others who work on the practicalities of life in chaos and anarchy. Let us know (carefully) your area of expertise. Many of us catalog this kind of stuff. some of us are just public. others in the gulch are stealthy. I would say we are all here in some way. I see most of the gulchers as heroes. and I try to provide value to a site that is so unique in all of the noise out there. stay tuned and happy reading, Neal....

There is no such place. It is a wishful fantasy.
The best place is the USA which shows you how far we are from a free place in which to live.
But if you're really serious, this doesn't mean it is not possible, just don't get sidetracked into rushing to situations that are bound to fail. As to the best state, probably Texas. Lots of Libertarian types there, lots of empty space to use as an enclave. But, you'll need many years, and hoping the idea will spread by your example. No Gulch tomorrow, but a possible future if you're tenacious enough.

I stand corrected, perhaps, perhaps I'm still learning, perhaps in my old age I just plain forgot. Thank you, you keep me on my toes.

PS - Just received my signed copy of Pendulum of Justice.

Panama by far is the closest best choice for a nation that is striving, inexpensive to live in, diverse eco systems, good inexpensive healthcare and more. Any interest in learning more about my home country emial: tbrymer@brymerpa.com

I remember when they were picking a State. They had it narrowed down to either New Hampshire or Wyoming. At the time, I lived in Wyoming and was hoping they would go with that State. I also did a Bachelor of Science at the University of New Hampshire in the 70's and knew that the change of New Hampshire - once a very freedom oriented State was happening - primarily because of those coming from south of their border - the Massholes.

I like Belize, but there is always Texas ... up near
"armadillo" and the mini-grand-canyon.......

but buy an island if you can -- or part of one, like
Grand Cayman. . they have a way of staying out
of the news.

I bought a gulch in tennessee, literally, and put in
a jeep trail across the gulch to fan out any potential
gushing rainfall;;; we also have no state income tax
(except for a moderate tax on dividends/interest).

Good Luck with your search!!! -- j

it implies a wish instead of doing. None of the people Galt recruited were looking for a Gulch. In a sense, you have a tremendous advantage over those Industrialists. In your quest to make a gulch , you will necessarily come into contact with people actively working to make one or many happen. Be one of those....
or it's just a fictional plot device...

thanks for the references freedom. Last night I found myself around a campfire with 3 former MPs (Canadian members of parliament) from their Reform Party. It was so refreshing to talk with politicians who who agree with you on much. They all were in for two terms-were voted out by moochers. but still try to influence politics to our North

Tell me...

Why necessarily wealthy? I get the impression most wealthy people today are more like Jim Taggart and Orren Boyle than like Midas Mulligan, Hank Rearden, or especially Francisco d'Anconia.

Last I heard, a certain group--whose name escapes me---picked New Hampshire to try that on. Only I've seen New Hampshire go from freedom-loving to freedom-hostile. New Hampshire might as well rename itself Dartmouth, like the college whose student body now seem to pick all their State-wide officials.

"If you ever find the Gulch please let me know."

what's wrong with this statement, Neal? :)

I've never been. We have some kiwi producers in this Gulch, Maree, for example.

Is this not the recipe that is being tried in New Hampshire?

Jan

Uh - I know some kiwis and they are so NOT like that. The one time I was in New Zealand, I had a poor impression of it, but I am given to understand that I am the only person on earth who has had that reaction.

With socialized medicine, New Zealand should not be in the running.

Jan

America, the country, is a big geeky dolt, snoozing in the sun. But if you get America really mad, then we become green and muscular and go "Smash!".

This is how people see us from the outside. I believe it works that way from the inside too. We are a big lazy country, and we are sufficiently affluent that bad decisions do not bite us dearly. It is not impossible that there be a call to action; nor is it impossible that we will 'dodge the bullet' by drifting back towards a Libertarian model of government.

There are encryptions that the alphabet soup agencies are not supposed to be able to break. There is also the fact that if you are simply going about business as usual your presence traveling the highways of the US is noted, but not notable. So, if you do not want to have to travel by horseback, instead: join the AKA and start showing your dog all over the US.

Jan

Well it's definitely not here in Washington State.

I really like New Zealand. Not that I like or agree with their way of government, but it sure seems to work well for them. The first time we were there, they had two government controlled TV stations. One day we read in their newspaper headlines, "US Bombs Woman and Children." referring to Libya. We were doing Bed an Breakfast stays and had to play completely dumb as to what we really thought about it. Women had no say, the men would answer to me every time my wife asked a question. They tried to ignore her.

If you ever find the Gulch please let me know.