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I wonder if this is one of the moist successful threads ever as far as durability is concerned.
A guy I knew owned a hobby shop that I go to and one day his wife was working because he was out of town. It was the day after someone had set all of those Hummers on fire. She was bragging about how those gas guzzlers were destroyed. The next day I go in there and her husband was working. I told him his wife was a hypocrite so he asked me why. I told him about what she had said the day before and that she had no room to talk. He asked me why and I explained the she was driving the Mustang GT 350(he drove a 6 cyl Mustang) which uses the most gas of any of the Mustangs and his answer was "Well, she had always wanted one"...
Then somehow Sarah Palin came up and he said he did not like her so I asked him why and he said because she is stupid. Puzzled, I asked him why he thought that and his answer was classic!!! "She said I can see Russia from my house" When I tried showing him the video of Tina Fey saying it on SNL he refused to look at it!!!
Yes liberals REALLY ARE that stupid!!!!!!!!!!
I've got a 'step-grandson' whose folks are fairly ardent Liberals. When this 14-year-old and I got into a dinner discussion of topical issues, I asked him if he had thought of 'where ALL the money comes from that "the government" provides to ALL of the 'wonderful programs' liberals love so much.'
After just a few more minutes, I believed he got the point that EVERY PENNY that 'the government provides to Anyone and Anything' comes out of taxes and fees paid by HIS Parents, me and all other citizens who pay their taxes.
I believe he got the point. Now i'm working on him with what I believe some call the Socratic approach... 'If something is a problem, WHAT Caused It To Be Such A Problem, and what was the cause of THAT driving factor... and so on, until you get close to the Real Root Cause of the Original Stated Problem.'
In my experience, most folks bail out of such a conversation after getting about three layers down. I postulate that a minimum of five or six layers Often, but Not Always, gets you to Root Cause. One dinner conversation with this young man, he counted between 8 and 11 layers down of such digging and we still agreed that we hadn't struck the ore of Root Cause of the particular issue.
He's very bright, and I treasure these conversations with him. Fortunately, he appreciates them, too!
And boy, is HE a rare one. :)
"What if the moochers don't see their handouts are coming at the price of their own freedoms?"
Or something like that.... If the 'stupids' can't/don't see what we'd call unintended consequences of their own actions, there is NO WAY they're going to change their thoughts, ways OR VOTES... and trust me on this: They Outnumber Us!
The "stupids" will not see it until it affects them, and maybe not even then. Ideology of any kind is like wearing blinders to reality.
His choice.
whom many in the army would have summarily
executed, on the spot, for "going over the hill" ....... -- j
They KNOW they're completely Right and The Other Side is Completely Evil, and conversation, let alone conversion, is truly impossible.
Welcome to a view of how fundamentalists and Born-Again's view atheists (large OR small 'A')
What about those who deny evolution?
What about those who deny global warming?
What about those who claim to be "pro-life" but deny others health care?
Yes. Rereleasing the original "Ground Hog Day" as a sequel.
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