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The moral case for Price Gouging

Posted by Robbie53024 10 years, 2 months ago to Economics
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Nobody likes to pay more for goods and services than they need to, so the title of this piece likely causes you to question my sanity. Never fear, if you read through and follow my reasoning, you will see not only that "price gouging" is moral, but that it actually will lead to greater availability of needed items at the lowest costs.

First, it is necessary to define our term - price gouging. This would be a situation whereby a seller increases the price on goods and services in response to a sudden and unpredictable shortage of said goods and services. We see this typically after a natural disaster such as a tornado, flood, hurricane, snow storm, etc. It is necessary that the situation be relatively sudden and unpredictable, otherwise a shortage would not likely occur, thus removing the ability for the seller to raise their prices since supply would be plentiful.

How do sellers of goods and services set their prices? It may come as a surprise to many that it is not on the basis of what they procured them for with some added profit. While "cost plus" pricing is rampant in governmental operations, in the free market this does not work. A purchaser of a good or service cares not a whit what you paid for it, they only care about the value that such good or service has to them. They will pay as much as they value it for, and no more. If the seller prices their goods at or below the buyer's willingness to purchase, they are likely to make a sale. The lower the price is in relation to the willing purchase price of the buyer, the higher the perceived value and the higher the likelihood of purchase. If they price them higher, the likeliness of selling goes to zero, since the purchaser does not perceive a good value in the purchase.

Thus, the seller does not in fact set the price at all, rather they choose a price based on their perception of the willingness of their potential customers to purchase at varying prices, along with the needed profit to make such business viable. For example, a seller may have an item in which there is one customer who will pay $1,000, once every year. The item costs the seller $100 to procure, so they would make $900 for a year. However, there are 1000 purchasers who would be willing to procure that item if priced at $150, which would net the seller $50,000. So the purchasers cause the price to be set at $150 instead of $1,000. So, the seller can sell one item at a tremendous profit but very low volume, or they can sell a lot at a lower profit, but a net total of a lot more.

There is another factor that also needs to be included, and that is the competition. If a good amount of profit is available, this will undoubtedly lead to others who wish to partake of some of that themselves. Thus, competition will ensue. In order for the new seller to break into the market, they will have to price their offering at or below that of the first seller, otherwise the customers will continue to purchase from the first seller, so long as that seller has sufficient supply to sell. This leads to price competition between the sellers to entice customers to purchase from them instead of the competitor.

So far, I've not discussed anything about price gouging, but having these concepts firmly understood is necessary prior to moving on. Customers set prices based on the value that they perceive of the goods and services that they desire. So long as there is sufficient supply, competitors drive down prices in order to entice customers to purchase from them instead.

What happens when a sudden and unexpected disruption happens? Because it was sudden and unexpected, none of the suppliers were able to stock ahead those goods that their customers will demand. Now there is a shortage of supply, and a demand for those goods. Suddenly the value to the customers increases as the competition switches to being between different customers instead of between different sellers. That customer that was willing to pay $1,000 now has the advantage as they will willingly fork over much more than will other customers. Again, this is the customer setting the price, not the seller, the seller merely is allocating the limited supply to those customers with a higher perception of value for those scarce goods. This is good, as not all customers can be satisfied due to limited supply and a mechanism for allocation must be established.

The question arises, then, why is supply limited? If there were more supply, then more could have been sold, and as we have seen, selling more even when at lower prices often results in a greater net revenue. But there are costs in procuring and stocking inventory of goods. There is the money that must be used to purchase the goods in the first place. This can result either in the loss of interest that could have been gained by keeping the money in the bank instead of spending it to purchase the goods. Or it may more likely be the result of paying interest to the bank for a loan that was used to pay to purchase the goods to be sold. Once the goods are procured, they also must be stored, necessitating some sort of warehouse, at a capital cost if owned, or a rental cost if leased, but in either case there is a cost to hold these goods.

There are also potential costs for obsolescence or spoilage (when newer goods are available, this makes the stored goods less desirable, or they get damaged or lose desirability to the customer due to age). The result is that procuring and holding goods incurs costs that the seller must take into account in determining how much to have and what price will result in satisfactory sales to cover all these costs plus make a profit. Procure too little, and a competitor will sell more and you will not satisfy enough customers. Procure too much, and you will have excessive costs that will make you less profitable.

By legislating that excessive price increases are not permitted, the incentive for the vendor to incur those additional costs is reduced. With less incentive, less of the potentially scarce item is available, thus ensuring its scarcity. Scarcity of needed items results in more people being harmed or enduring conditions that are harsher than otherwise would need to be. By allowing "price gouging" the first time that a shortage occurs some with the scarce goods will make a very good profit. This will entice others to want to participate in that good profit and they will make plans to participate - stock more of the goods or be able to get the goods readily. When the next event occurs that causes a shortage, now there will be more participants to provide those goods. The additional availability will reduce the overall price for all, yet still provide enough profit for those who have taken on the additional risks of the increased availability.

Let's take a very simple example. Electric generators are a rather high cost item with low continual demand but high demand after many natural disasters. The high costs and low demand typically would call for the inventory levels to be kept low. A tornado is a very sudden event and very localized. In an environment where price gouging laws are in place there is no incentive for a business to stock more generators than they would normally sell, so they don't Without any incentive to incur greater costs, the business will not do so.


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  • Posted by justin_mohr_show 10 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The giant, 800 lb. elephant in the room is how do you define "American interests?" Obviously, with government everything is seen as an interest and it gets us into trouble and like the domestic economy they create more problems then they solve.
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  • Posted by Bob44_ 10 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Very libertarian, but there are times when Americans and American interests need to be protected and it can't be done by folks smoking dope in their homes and waiting for someone else to get the job done. That's the problem with libertarians and why they will never be elected president.
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  • Posted by NealS 10 years, 2 months ago
    Interesting topic, is this from a bad dream you had last night? Lose interest on the money taken out of the bank, what bank are you with, mine pays so little I might as well keep it in a mason jar in the back yard? And one other factor, sometimes you can sell more by placing a big sign on the product that says, "ON SALE". "ON SALE" sometimes has as much meaning as the word "Warranty". On Sale works pretty good for my wife, she just left to get some new On Sale bedding for the new bed we just purchased yesterday.

    We ordered an adjustable bed frame with a high end foam mattress. Features are an important part for some people. Are you aware these new adjustable bed frames can be controlled from your Smart Phone? And now they even have USB charging ports, AC Outlets, Blue Tooth Speaker Systems, and even massage. Remember the last time you put in a quarter to have your bed shake? They don't come with a coin box however, that would be an add on accessory. At one reputable chain store our Split-King (that's two Singles you can push together to make a King) came to about $5100 plus tax (about 10% here). Across the street they had the same thing but it was last years model ON SALE for about $3600 and the current SALE included tax. Guess which one we bought.

    My story here is just to confirm some of the information and concepts presented by Robbie, and because I had nothing better to do right now. Does anyone know where to purchase a nice looking coin box? I'm still going to forgo the Smart Phones, I probably couldn't operate one anyway, and I'd be in a lot of trouble if one of us got folded in half during the night because of a butt dial.. Oh yes, I almost forgot to mention the Under Bed Convenience Light, I wonder what that's all about? The only thing none of them had was built in pistol safe. I wonder how many bed regulations there are from Uncle Sam?
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  • Posted by Bob44_ 10 years, 2 months ago
    Check the oil industry. Prices fluctuate daily because of supply and demand. Most other items charge whatever the market will bear. The idea that an item is worth only what it costs to produce is a communist idea, and one many American socialists believe, but then countries like Russia could not control their economy and went busted.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 10 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I believe that a degree of compassion is needed in the case of human life. I might modify it a bit by adding that self caused illnesses can be disregarded. In any case, I pointed out that you can question the seller's integrity, but then you must bargain (with the seller) or borrow, which are the only two options if you don't have the $$ and if the seller remains adamant. Under no circumstances did I mean to infer regulation.
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  • Posted by JaxGary 10 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I am not a professor. I am a part-time lecturer at one school and a part-time adjunct instructor at another. We are the pool of highly qualified, experienced, knowledgeable, and underpaid doers who provide a contrast to the pure academics who live in the theoretical world. We also represent about half of the faculty in most schools today.
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  • Posted by term2 10 years, 2 months ago
    Prices usually rise during unexpected shortages. Why would anyone want to keep supplies of all these things sitting around when they could ONLY sell during shortages. Of course they are going to cost more, partially to pay for the cost of uneconomically producing and storing them during times they are not needed.

    How about just stockpiling a few items that YOU might need during an emergency, and then NOT needing them at the time ? Most people know what the typical emergencies are likely to be in their geographical areas.
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  • Posted by Rocky_Road 10 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    This might be a dilemma for you (and me) since you support price gouging, in essence.
    It then stands to reason that you should support tax gouging, since there will surely be more than enough people willing to pay the price?
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  • Posted by justin_mohr_show 10 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    One thing I will say with Levin, I think he argues like a liberal when it comes to foreign policy.(you might take issue with me a little bit) But I don't think the U.S. should be in all these country's all over the world. We're broke! We can't afford it! I want a military that stays at home and keeps us protected here. (have a strong defense) I think we're going on offense way to much. We are engaged in conflicts. (guerrilla warfare that is next to impossible to win.) All I'm saying is that the military is still government and so it is inefficient just like the rest of government. When Levin hears someone argue about reducing the built in increases to the defense budget he blows up and basically calls them unamerican. Very similar to liberal speak. Other than that, for the most part, I think he's pretty good. I wish he was more libertarian on economic issues but no one is perfect.
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  • Posted by justin_mohr_show 10 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Yeah, I agree with you on those guys. And I do know who Mark Belling is. I have heard him a few times when he guest hosted for Rush. I think he's ok. Bill is so arrogant and he doesn't even realize how ignorant on the issues he is! Hannity has no idea either. He has his little talking points and he regurgitates them like a parrot all the time. He never adds anything new to the debate.
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  • Posted by 10 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    True. But in this case, it could be called "Tax Gouging." Quick, while prices on gasoline have gone down let's add on some more taxes since people are used to paying much more - and since they used to be able to pay that much, they can absorb our additional taxes to bring up the cost to that former level. Of course, they would have no intention of decreasing those taxes as the price returns to earlier levels, so the burden would just keep increasing.
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  • Posted by 10 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I used to enjoy Bill, but he's really embraced populist claptrap the last few years. I like when Stossel shuts him up (well, nobody shuts Bill up cause he just keeps on talking). Stopped watching Hannity long ago as he is nothing more than a water carrier for the R's. Love Mark Levin, as he's a pretty straight shooter. And my local guy, Mark Belling (sometimes subs for Rush) is pretty good.
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  • Posted by $ jdg 10 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Neither hoarding nor "gouging" nor speculation is the problem. All three are good because they generate the price signals that cause the supply system to correct imbalances.

    There's only a problem when government interferes with this process (as when New York's anti-gouging law capped prices after the hurricane there). Result: the entrepreneurs who would wait in line to buy gas and resell it at a higher price stopped operating, so you had to do your own waiting in line without the option of paying someone to do it for you.

    The market gives us choices. Regulation that takes them away is evil. Always.
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  • Posted by 10 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I read it as Herb was saying that life-saving medicines and procedures should be excepted from price regulation. I guess it could be read that he was saying that you shouldn't forgo same. That's why I asked.

    I don't think that even medicine/medical procedures should be regulated. Just look at what has happened to things like Lasik and cosmetic surgery. Both have improved tremendously with costs being held in check, and outstanding customer service.
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  • Posted by Rocky_Road 10 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Price gouging is usually associated with a catastrophic event of some sort (at least the laws prohibiting such read that way).
    There is no catastrophic shortage of oil, and therefor, gas...it is the opposite, we have an abundance.
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  • Posted by 10 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Most gasoline taxes aren't proportional to the price of the gasoline, they are a fixed amount. Thus, as the price goes down, the taxes become even more regressive - being a larger portion of the overall cost paid for each gallon.
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  • Posted by Rocky_Road 10 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Come on, Robbie!
    What sane person would forego something that will save their life, and that they can afford, simply to 'protest' the pricing?
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