How Women Work?

Posted by Rozar 11 years, 5 months ago to Culture
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After reading all of bambi's arguments and women hating I stumbled on this gem.



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  • Posted by j_IR1776wg 11 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    "Evidence trumps logic. It doesn't matter what logic and theory says, if you can witness it in real life."
    You are confused. The evidence of our senses is a necessary precondition to logic. They are not antithetical to each other but are, together, the only way to determine truth.
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  • Posted by LetsShrug 11 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    No it does not make me 63! I didn't say "Victrola"!
    If you mean the majority of women then say "majority" before you say "women"...WHEN ever you say "women". 8 extra key strokes..I'm sure you can handle extra strokes. No?
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  • Posted by BambiB 11 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    >> if you're a man in any type of relationship with such a woman, listen to them, just don't do or try to be what they seem to want you to do.

    In general, women come to men with complaints and only want the man to listen to the complaints - and do nothing. This is insane from the male perspective. The reason for talking about a problem is to seek possible solutions to ACT to resolve the issue. But women just want to talk - it's what they've done for millennia. For them, someone listening to their drivel, er, concerns, reassures them that they are not alone. In short, women aren't happy unless they have some problem to complain about (that no one tries to solve) and men aren't happy with unsolved problems polluting the air. All of which points up another major difference between men and women:

    Men are problem solvers. Women? Not so much.

    >> Feminization is not just a female condition.

    Actually, the technical term as applied to men is not "feminization". It's "pussification". But you can see in the response here why most men will not go against the group think. Look at the irrational responses to documented fact. Look at the ad hominem attacks. Do you think women would be less hostile (to the truth) if these discussion were taking place face-to-face?

    That's why the author in the book, "Men on Strike" says men are dropping out. They don't need a six-figure income if they're not going to support a family. Video games are a lot more fun than talking to a harpy. Marriage? Don't bother. Just find someone who hates you and give them half your stuff!

    One point I don't agree with you on is that the genetic traits have already been substantially altered. Men are still men. They're just not in the same role they've been in for the past 100,000 years. But you needn't worry that this is a permanent change in culture. Most of the world treats women more in line with their traditional roles. So you can think of the current state as the "woman bubble". A brief period of time during which women appeared to be ascendant before crashing back to the prior status quo. In short, it cannot last. Ironically, it may be one of the few areas where the radical Muslims are right.
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  • Posted by BambiB 11 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    No Mimi, I'd say the majority of what I've said is what I earnestly and truly believe to be the truth - with all the most salient facts backed up by links to relevant research.

    But since we're digging into motives and such, I see you as someone who would deny a truth you find disturbing, even if it were tattooed on your forehead, repeated by every person you know, played on every radio station and drilled (literally, drilled) into your head. Your "counter arguments" such as they are, are unsupported. They are in fact, if not merely your opinion, then at least what you want to believe - regardless of their clear conflict with what is known to be factual.

    You are a denier of logic. And emotionally-driven person with scant grasp of the topics possessing a paucity of reasoning ability.

    For you "women's intuition" IS "fact", regardless of truth.

    As for the "fallacies", I don't suppose you are capable of following that discussion. Suffice to say, you got it wrong. Again.
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  • Posted by BambiB 11 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I've already said that when I say "women" I mean the majority of women.

    Really. I did.

    Sorry you missed it.


    45? Bump the needle? That would make you about 63 years old!
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  • Posted by Herb7734 11 years, 5 months ago
    Re: "Romantic Love"
    A component of romantic love is the admiration of one person of another. A hero admiring a heroine. It is not the product of hormones, nor is sex the only component, although not a component to be disregarded. A rational man is ruled by the product of his brain and not his glands, which means that appearance is only a part the of attraction and not necessarily the major one. Do not forget that the very foundation of man's definition qua man is volition. To think or not to think is as much a part of choosing a life's companion as it is in every other decision. I recommend Rand's 'The Romantic Manifesto, which applies not only to relationships, but also to creativity.
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  • Posted by 11 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The video wasn't about why the government is growing. It's about the nature of women and men. Obviously there is going to be more than one cause, but the fact that there is more than one cause doesn't eliminate this cause. If you want to dispute this you have to target the argument not the outcome.
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  • Posted by LetsShrug 11 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    BambiB, I really really want to give you a point for the cool checkmark things, but you keep back handing us. Listen. Please. Could you, for argument's sake, say, "most women" when you make these accusations, or state facts, or whatever you want to call it? WE women in the gulch (as far as a I know) do NOT fall under this umbrella of retarded voters, non thinkers, wants free stuff, married to the gov..... we despise all of those ideas as much as you do. And try talking about a different topic sometimes....or we may just stop listening and start thinking you're a scratched up 45 that nobody bothers to go bump the needle. I'M BUMPING THE NEEDLE!
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  • Posted by Zenphamy 11 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I wanted Ron Paul. I don't know many men that really 'wanted' Mitt Romney. They seemed to fall for the false idea of voting for the least bad one on the ballot.
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  • Posted by $ Mimi 11 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I’m implying that your username should have been Loki. Don’t think I don’t see through this whole divide-and-rule game you got going on for yourself here.You are having great sport at the expense of the women on this board. I don’t think you believe half the things you are writing. Let’s just call it -- a woman’s intuition. (I’m still sensing military.)
    So far, as others have pointed out, you rely heavily on fallacies. Isn’t comparing equal pay for equal work to a woman’s ability to land a bomber sort of a mask man fallacy? There. That’s my contribution. Keep writing; I’m reading.
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  • Posted by Zenphamy 11 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    BambiB, for me, the damage done and that yet to come encompasses so much more than just an economic collapse and humans starving. We're 4 to 5, maybe 6 generations into such a radical, near nationwide, (probably global) blind and hysterical attempt to alter and engineer humankind's perceptions of reality, that rational objective thinking and analysis of the overall impact on our species is near impossible for such a huge majority of the population. Ignoring the evolutionary development of our species, with certain genetic traits that so strongly impact perceptive analysis and reactions to the events of life that through 1million years or more has led to our survival and to who and what we are today, in favor of bogus explanations, studies, and junk science to justify the drastic shift of societal power of the late 19th and early 20th centuries has been nothing short of insanity and suicidal for society. How many realize that more than 90% of all the species that have ever lived on Earth are extinct, and that most of them had come and gone long before our little branch even began to form?

    When AR began forming and writing of the objectivist philosophy, we were only 2 to 3 generations down the road of feminization of the controls and principle purposes of society at all levels. Can you picture the reception that an AR of today just introducing her philosophy would be subjected to? I'm not even sure of how AR might have responded to the anti-feminization terminology and examples you and I and many others choose to utilize in our arguments, unless she had entered the fray at similar times and circumstances as we. But never the less, her predictions of the collateral and most societally damaging consequences of what she recognized as irrational thinking, analysis, and action have for the most part come to face us in glaring fashion.

    As for capitalizing on the situation that we acknowledge to be actual, with some fuzzy delineations still to be determined such as collapse timing, I think it boils down to how much effort we're willing to put into gaining a true understanding of the total impact to our lives. Financially, I think we all grasp that wealth comes from receiving more in value for our contributions of value to the market than it costs to support our life, but more than just accumulating, we must in this situation transform that wealth into things that we can hold and control in such a way that women (divorce, child support, overspending, taxation, confiscation) can't take it from us such as physical gold & silver, even when against the law. In much the same vein, realize that many if not most prohibition laws are feminist in origin and only serve to establish a black market which though higher risk, we should be willing to explore and participate in if we can do so safely and ethically within our personal moral value system. Laws and rules that are inconsistent with the ethics and morals of a rational minded producer can and should be dealt with as with any civil disobedience issue, ie. slavery, alcohol prohibition, mixed marriage, etc.

    But to capitalize personally, we should do as the two female psychologist that I referenced in a previous post, suggested. Women's suffrage leading to the feminist movement has convinced young women of all the fallacies that we recognize, but instinctually, at a sub-conscious level in personal relationships, acting on those teachings make them very unhappy. In the experience of the referenced psychologists in treating young to middle aged women, when women learned to accept being true to their biology or on occasion found themselves in a relationship with a man that dealt with them as, he a male and her as a female, they became happy and content. In their (psychologist) words, if you're a man in any type of relationship with such a woman, listen to them, just don't do or try to be what they seem to want you to do.

    Our main difficulty in addressing this situation is that I don't think, regardless of the ads from Chili and Argentina, a Galt's Gulch is available except in our minds. We can learn to apply the Objectivist philosophy and Libertarian politics to ourselves and our lives for our benefits. We may have to learn to accept and defend selfishness from the viewpoint of self-interest vs. self-centeredness. Being very different than those around us and gaining internal strength from that, based on real knowledge formed and investigated within a rational mind, particularly when verified within true, peer reviewed science studies and literature, can form a strong individualist that can then proceed to innovation and actual progress. I fear that most men in today's world simply fear, or are too tired, or too lazy to go against what the group think is. Feminization is not just a female condition.
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  • Posted by BambiB 11 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    See, that whole "behave like a troll" thing is confusing. Do you mean to imply that trolls introduce factual information of which you disapprove and therefore rate disapproval?

    >> Furthermore, I will never show you my shoe collection

    Oh Lordy, Lordy! Thank you for that!
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  • Posted by BambiB 11 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    He also didn't mention jet engines, Star Trek, vulcanized rubber, tarot cards and nuclear fusion.

    What of it?
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  • Posted by BambiB 11 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Actually, there's significant evidence that allowing women into the military simply resulted in a "dumbing down" of military standards. (See "Weak Link, The Feminization of the American Military" by Brian Mitchell.) The trend is to eliminate those activities that women cannot do, to maintain a separate, lower standard for women, to promote women faster for lower-quality work, even to pass women on who fail standards. Karen Hultgreen was a prime example. The first female Navy Fighter Pilot, her instructors repeatedly gave her failing marks. Hultgreen, true to type, declared that she was being discriminated against on the basis of Gender and complained through her congressional representative. IIRC, the assignment of the next CINCPAC was held up pending a "satisfactory" resolution of her complaint.

    Given no choice, her instructors passed her on the course while noting she was a danger in the air.

    On her first Carrier landing attempt, Hultgreen over controlled her $40 million dollar F-14 Tomcat causing a flameout in one of the engines. Her GIB was able to punch out in time, but Hultgreen went to the bottom.

    The only good thing about Karen Hultgreen is she didn't manage to kill anyone else… and such is more typical in the military than most people realize.

    Equal pay for equal work? In a pig's eye. Women are "playing" at something they don't even understand.
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  • Posted by $ Mimi 11 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Thank-you. I like it when my errors are pointed out reasonably. I didn’t ping you because of your spelling. I pinged you because you behave like a troll. It’s annoying to try and have a conversation with someone who thinks it is okay to smack you down because of your sex. It’s not debate; it’s abuse.

    Furthermore, I will never show you my shoe collection.

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  • Posted by BambiB 11 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    >> The legends of Pandora and Eve should give us a clue.

    LMAO! Those are interesting choices. The lesson appears to be, don't let women off the leash!
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  • Posted by BambiB 11 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    There are really only two factors that give me any hope.
    1) While the Demoncrats are a monolithic block made up of pure stupidity, and the Republicans are generally a lot dumber than one might hope, still, the Republicans are NOT a monolith. The Tea Party/Constitutionalist/Goldwater/Ron Paul Republicans DO have the right idea and they are making an effort. Will Americans be smart enough to kick the others out? I don't know. Probably not. I have little hope that the men will wake up and almost no hope at all that women will figure things out. But younger folks seem to be starting to "get it". Of course, seeing the price of education rise 1200% in a three decades, getting roped into Obamacare and tied down to pay for senior care is a sobering experience, I'm sure. Perhaps they'll lead the charge in #2.
    2) The government is enormously outgunned. With 300 million firearms in private hands, it wouldn't be that difficult to violently overthrow the government. It IS what the Founding Fathers had in mind when they enshrined the Right to Keep and Bear Arms in the Second Amendment. They had just finished defeating the world's major superpower in a war that started when Britain attempted to control their arms. Those shots fired on Lexington Green? The Brits were on their way to confiscate rifles, powder, cannon and shot.

    I cannot think of a time in history when a citizenry was so heavily armed. (Can you?) Killing the enslavers is rather extreme - but I could see it happening. At some point people may be desperate enough - and once word of their success spreads, it's all over for the ruling class.

    But what comes next?
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