"Augur".. there's an underused word.

Thank you! :)

Bet you haven't read that either. I don't think I've ever given you a reason to call me a liar, but that's what you just did. It's not about the zombies!! And fifty shades is nothing more than a lesson in crappy writing and a tool to reveal some stupid women for what they are. Fantasy hounds.

Win?? You didn't even make a point! I'm taking one just for your lameness.

Thanks, Robbie... that was fairly predictable...
So if one cannot prove a negative (that there is NO Supreme Being,) please demonstrate how you can prove the opposite... That there IS one (or more, or any...)

Atheists would like nothing better than a cogent argument to prove that! Really! We just never seem to receive any!

Go for it!!

I mean that if you use the christian definition of god it is clear that god does not and cannot exist.

'the... definition... cannot exist'???
What did you really mean to say? :)

Oh, Danger, Will Robinson!
What you just said, blarman, can too easily be applied to 'discussions' of the same aspects of Religion!

Shields Up!

But...There aren't any.

By George (and Alan [me]).. , You've Got It!
:)

???... The Big Bang Theory is just that... a theory that appears to explain a LOT of the evidence we've observed with our senses and advanced technological sensors.

If new facts or observations turn up that prove conclusively that The Theory has holes in it, first, the Theory, like most others, is tweaked to see if it can, with internally consistent logic, account for the 'new discoveries.'

If it can't, it gets tossed and hopefully replaced with something more inclusive and accurate. If the tweaks appear to work, the tweaks are then open to experimental verification or rejection, too!

And even today, there are other 'theories' competing with TBB Theory to 'explain what we see and measure right now.'

Hell, the observation of the theorized Higgs Boson doesn't EXPLAIN 'how gravity works' any more than the discovery of the electron 'EXPLAINS' how electricity or electrostatic attraction WORKS, either!

:) But those are some of the Real Fun Challenges in Science!

Jan, I thought that the new COSMOS series handled those concepts pretty well, plus the fact that some very complex molecules have been detected in interstellar space, including compounds found in a lot of what we call "organic matter" here on earth!

Coincidence? Untrue? Created By God to fool/mislead/annoy us? Or yes, the way chemical elements naturally interact makes it quite probable that they will combine in ways that, with appropriate energy supplies and environments, can and will lead to what we call "life."

"Having been born does not augur well for the concept of Immortality"... ---Woody Allen, I believe...

Robbie, if atheism or Objectivism have failed to answer 'fundamental questions' about the origin of the universe, how life initiated from inorganic matter or how sentience came into existence, I'm afraid that you're disappointed that those turnips don't yield blood any more than would a stone... any more than a set of x-y coordinates provide answers to questions in the z-axis direction!

You, again, seem to postulate that, Man Will Assume The Role of The Supreme Being If No Supreme Being [Really] Exists. That Deocentric view implicitly assumes The Existence OF a Supreme Being (God) in the face of atheists' search for proof that one actually exists. Belief of the Existence of a Supreme Being is, to atheists, NOT 'proof' of the Existence of a Supreme Being. "We" atheists see that 'logic' as circular and faulty, while the folks espousing those beliefs appear to make it the be-all/end-all Proof That They're Right.

And you wonder why the "discussion" is fruitile?
:)

And I think the irony of your phrase 'man-made supreme beings' might have escaped you... :)

If you didn't see the irony/humor in that, I'll try to be explicit: from an atheist's point of view, Your God IS a 'man-made Supreme Being,' so complaining that the ones that cultures or cults create, using flesh-and-blood members OF their groups, creating their own Supreme Beings... seems a funny way to put it.

ITS NOT ABOUT THE ZOMBIES!! Ugh. And that's not what Saul is about either.. well sorta but oh so much more. Don't knock it til ya try it.

Um, I only watch excellent shows. Justified, walking dead, downtown Abby, Spartacus, Viking, call Saul (lol), breaking bad, and certain HG network home reno shows.