The Producer
I would like to know more about the people here. What have you done and what do you plan to do. Producer isn't a light title to carry.
Myself I live in a po-dunk little town that is trying to make it with the major metropolitan areas. They believe youth will pave the way, as far as I can tell our "youth" haven't done a damn thing. They are the people that sit in the meetings with the great ideas and do nothing about it.
I want to create events, they probably won't put us on the map but they will be events. No donating for a cause but people going out spending their hard earned evening for a memorable evening.
Myself I live in a po-dunk little town that is trying to make it with the major metropolitan areas. They believe youth will pave the way, as far as I can tell our "youth" haven't done a damn thing. They are the people that sit in the meetings with the great ideas and do nothing about it.
I want to create events, they probably won't put us on the map but they will be events. No donating for a cause but people going out spending their hard earned evening for a memorable evening.
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This claim is also laughable:
"There are thousands of posts on the internet far more revealing about the skinny on this film than what I have revealed, many of them private groups that are private because the posters don't want to be blackballed by angry wealthy Randites."
Because "Randites" have so much power and influence that they can blackball people in Hollywood and lots of films with their values are being made.
None of what I have contended is false. The money only exists to make this film because very wealthy, like-minded ideologues guaranteed financing, just as they do with PACS. They aren't doing it to champion Rand, they are doing it for the same reason that they support political candidates: they are seeking political influence that will allow them more favorable economic conditions than the rest of America. This is just one more tool in their arsenal.
Every decision the producers make on this film weighs the propaganda factor far more heavily than it weighs the art factor. You've made that abundantly clear on this site and others, and it's also been reinforced in interviews with the media: This film is a political tool, and it is being rolled out right before the election to try to influence politics. The immaturity of the film experience of part 1, and the hysterical overstatements in the trailer for part 2 only points this out. Drama, drama, drama, and not in the good way. Your audiences will eat it up even if it's the most cartoon representation of a film ever made (even if you have to recast the entire film because you failed to lock the actors in for all three parts, as any experienced set of producers surely would have done. Name me a single other film in the history of American film making that has made this mistake.)
If you can disprove ANY of what I've just said, please by all means do, and I will apologize. Secrets aren't as secret in Hollywood as you might like them to be. There are thousands of posts on the internet far more revealing about the skinny on this film than what I have revealed, many of them private groups that are private because the posters don't want to be blackballed by angry wealthy Randites. After the film comes out however, I'm sure much of the information will have found its way to critics, etc, who will report what they know.
Moving on... I've never pretended to be sneaking around. I'm using the same damned moniker as always. lol. Despite your statement to the contrary, I have NOT been banned 5 times. lol. I have always posted at Atlas Shrugged film groups was using the same screen name with slight modifications. I have been very up front about who I am, and I have taken full responsibility for my comments. This would be my 3rd screen name all based on the same JGID theme. So please don't lecture me on falsehoods until you move out of your glass house.
You can ban all you want, if that's the way you want to play the game. Both you and I know however that the reason you keep me around is because I boost activity at this site by a factor of 2 or 3. Are you sure you want to give that up just leading up to the release of this film, and then have everyone standing around bored silly, talking to members of the choir again?
I have been as respectful as every other members of this group (more so in many cases.) If you think being a moderator of this site should allow you advantages over who should be able to say what, then you have just proven true every last one of my claims about Randites; The chose people who are more deserving of things they worked for than others who work just as hard and just as smart. The logical thing for you to do here, and the thing that Rand herself would encourage you to do, is to put in the work to prove me wrong.Use your reasoning abilities and become a producer, not a moocher living off of my efforts. Banning is the cowards way out. Create something, man. Write with such passion that you knock my socks off.
You're going to need to get a grip and stick with what you know as fact or we're going to have to ban you... again. And, regardless of what you might think, we don't want to ban you. We know how much you enjoy coming in here and doing your thing so... just take a breath kiddo. Relax. Everyone here would actually welcome some serious well thought out debate so, try heading to higher ground and sticking to the issues.
Ad hominem and patently false statements are only going to lead to us shutting the door on you... again... for like the fifth time already.
It's not like you keep sneaking in Kerry. We keep letting you in. We're just hoping that you'll eventually want to actually debate something.
The producers for this film are being paid handsomely for their efforts regardless of how big of a turkey or how poorly made this project ends up being. To be perfectly honest, even the earliest discussions when this project started to gear up wasn't about making a kick-ass high quality film, it was about doing the best they could within the "limitations." What exactly ARE those limitations? This film had more money to work with than 99.9% of all films made in America.
and it's still nothing more than a piece of poorly made propaganda designed to prey on the faithful.
I sketched and drew and specified and collaborated, and then other members of the team built it and painted it and dressed it and lit it and performed on it.
Do you have Google where you live? It's really easy to look this stuff up.
What specifically did you do for that movie? What were your contributions?
The movie would, of course, be attractive to followers of Ayn Rand's writings... just as the many manifestations of Dune would be to admirers of Frank Herbert's writing, or those making kazillions on Gene Roddenberry's work.
I hope the people running this website, and as such making the movie, make a BOATLOAD of money on both. They took a huge risk putting her work on celluloid, and whether you think the movie rocks or is a waste of film, I admire what they're doing.
Who I feel sorry for are those who disparage a group for having the guts to have a vision and see it through. Whether it makes it or not, they have done something that few would have the cajones to do - follow a vision. Sure beats talking smack about someone following a vision.
Oh, one more thing... How do you feel about other artists using kickstarter to fund their art? Or starting a business that may not be Microsoft in its first week of existence, out of a garage? Ya know... not all success stories have to be all polished chrome highrise office buildings... at least to start.
If you're just here to hate on everyone, you're wasting your energy. You're not introducing any new ideas; you're recycling the same tired ideas from people who probably stated them much more eloquently than you.
As far as "legitimate films" paying its workers - I don't remember them paying the throngs of teenage girls wearing the "Twilight" shirts or buying the Mockingjay pin for "The Hunger Games". The fans did all that because they believed in it (although to be fair, they are to blame for unleashing sparkly vampires on all of us).
For someone in the industry, you're pretty damn clueless about fandom and what people are willing to do for the movies/novels/musicians they admire. The notion that people ought to be paid for all that is beyond asinine - and even so, they do it out of a desire to spread the author's work to people who may not have ever read him or her before.
And by the way - "13 year old metal head geeks"? If you truly worked in the industry you'd know that it's "the age of the geek." I wouldn't diss these kids; they are the defenders of free speech nowadays.
I started out wanting to do fundraisers for non-profits, the thing is any event in my town is a fundraiser. Besides the few concerts, or plays that trickle through our events center, their isn't anything unique to go out and spend money on without being guilted into buying crap auction items etc.
Events? Any kind. Preferably not weddings, brides are the least rational people on the planet. The idea that weddings are parties and not obligations is lost amongst people anymore as I found when I helped my friend plan hers.
I am full of ideas, I just have to consistently put the backpedal on, I am really good at extending me further then my fiscal abilities. It is a slow progress but I am hoping one day to be successful in event planning, since saying you want to do that in my town is pretty much a joke.
How about you Terry?
I didn't purchase anything, not will I ever from these "producers". I saw the film for free since I work in the industry, and I laughed throughout much of it at its failings to live up to "B" list standards.
So now creating a website is reason for respect? Congrats to 13 year old metal head geeks everywhere. lol
The amazing thing to me is that these producers are talking you all for a ride. This is a money making proposition to them, nothing more. Do you reckon the profits they make from Randites seeing this film a dozen times each are going to support Rand's ideals, or do you reckon they are going to pay for their 3rd vacation homes?
Unlike other legitimate films that pays its workers, this one counts on Rand cult members to do its work for it for free, and then still expects them to pay full price to see the film. The items available for sale on the film's website are off-the-scale overpriced, yet Randites continue to buy them.
Wake up people. You are being used as pawns to enrich other people, all while believing you are supporting a philosophy that says you are enabling yourselves. lol.
where are you headed with this, since I've already answered you 3 times.
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