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I have found much information in the discussions in the Gulch. ( I do not think I can use them to convert the liberals around me because they will not actually listen. )

Jan

good thinkin' Jan! . we have a challenge when it
comes to slippery slopes! -- j

I call that 'making monsters of the mind'. I have tried to train myself out of the habit of doing this, but I find it difficult sometimes.

There are people who have acted as trolls on this list - short comments, lots of unpleasant labels, and no discussion. You are not short on the quality of 'being willing to discuss' so I do not consider you a troll.

But if you are not a troll, but your communication style makes people you find interesting repeatedly think that this is your goal, then you might wish to take that under advisement.

Jan

I have had some good interactions with him.

Jan

I do not know the answer to your question, but one of the things I would like to accord to Ayn Rand is...fallibility.

Jan

But in that case, you would be 'returning' the money to its original owner, not 'giving' it. I see that as different.

If a man is running down the street carrying a pink purse and I trip him, take the purse, and give it back to the littleoldlady he stole it from it is a different matter than if I were to clobber an innocent pink-purse-carrying man, wrench his beloved purse from his grasp and then toss it to some old woman who 'I' decided deserved to have it.

Jan

You're welcome. Where 's my poster?

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Ok now sheep are involved

Thanks for the link - don't have time to browse it right now but I will do so later. I have a slight acquaintance with the gentleman and a good deal of respect for him.

Jan

Those who refuse to read her works yet speak about her philosophy as though they are knowledgable

I first read that idea in one of Heinlein's stories (Coventry?), and I do think that this is an aspect of government that no country has addressed. Every country wants to keep their natural/cultural citizens.

But the devil is in the details and the details of this boggle my brain: How do you keep it from being an oath under duress? Do you export your criminals when they turn 18? (If not, maybe you should slap a cop the day before your 18th bday.) Do people who eschew cars have to pay for highways? Do they pay less? (After all, even if they walk to the supermarket, their food gets to the market via roads.)

So I think that either a flat rate payment (ahem = tax) or a government ownership of some profitable utility by which it can earn a living sounds better. Have pity on the bookkeepers!

Jan

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Well, amhunt, it is only circular logic if you define "liberty" as 'never paying a compulsory tax'. Ranter's definition does not seem to be circular.

Jan

None of those three started a World war...they were localized bad-asses.

I pay to join because the website cost money to run, and I enjoy the comments of others who are from different walks of life and have different perspectives. for example I have no idea what nebuluos means in the context you are using it. But the advantage to me is that I have this website long after the Movie has been produced. How many other websites will actually have a real producer actually answer a question like this?

I can see that.

He likes it.

What's his stand on sex?

That's the reason why people cite it, for sure. My question is why should that not be appropriate.