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All human rights stem from the right to your own life.

Posted by frankjackfiamingo 10 years, 2 months ago to The Gulch: Introductions
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I look forward to trading value for value with people who understand what value is.


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  • Posted by 10 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    I would like to apologize for my earlier response to your comment. Upon reading it, I find my reaction to be offensive. I did not join this group to be offensive. Perhaps I need to notch back on my meds (or perhaps UP). I hope that you will accept my apology.
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  • Posted by 10 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    Or to me. I didn't intend to sound as strident as the reading of my response looks. I apologize to tragic for sounding like I have a stick up my hind parts. You are correct in pointing this out KH. I look forward to learning more from you through your posts and these interactions.
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  • Posted by khalling 10 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    I guess context is sometimes nice when stating this. for example does tragic agree with your opening statement or disagree? it's not really clear to me.
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  • Posted by 10 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    Agreed. The "creator" deliberately creates a "flawed" creature, and then tortures it for 70 to 100 years, then burns it at the stake if it isn't grateful. :-) hmmmmmm. Everyone is entitled to believe what they will, but I would say that is a bit disturbing to me.
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  • Posted by 10 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    NJ is a microcosm of Socialism in America. It is run by looters, moochers, thugs, destroyers and death worshippers - and THAT comprises most of its GOOD points. Everything goes downhill from there. The one GREAT thing is the NJ Shore. I built a home on the great Manahawkin Bay overlooking Long Beach Island. My Granddaughters live here, so I will stay and fight until the rest of my parts fall off. :-)
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  • Posted by 10 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    I also think I may have clicked reply on the wrong post. This format is very different from what I am used to. I'll get the hang of it.
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  • Posted by j_IR1776wg 10 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    I believe that you, the Hallings, and, indeed, Ayn Rand have conflated the concepts of Ownership and Control. I will start a separate post to prove my assertion.
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  • Posted by LetsShrug 10 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    Mmmm how about you read more Rand and then we'll discuss the unlikeliness of that possibility at length.
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  • Posted by LetsShrug 10 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    How about..... I have a right to defend my life and the lives of those I love, if you take away my right to have a gun, then you're taking my right to defend my life away. No one has a right to take my life or my means of defending it. Owning a gun does not make me a menace. It makes me prepared.
    If a real menace were to show up right now and attempt to do us harm, it just might be your life I save. Would you deny me that right as well?
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  • Posted by $ jdg 10 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    The story of Jesus is presented as a noble sacrifice, both on his own part and his father's -- but if you read the whole thing, you realize that all they are offering to "save" you from is his father's wrath. Making it a protection racket.

    If I did believe in God I would be seeking his overthrow.
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