Common Core strikes again!

Posted by Non_mooching_artist 11 years, 4 months ago to Education
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This is one more reason, among thousands, why Common Core needs to be eradicated. Not just tooled with. Struck down. Put in an incinerator. There is no logic to it, no possible way this is a rational method to teaching. I, for one, am disgusted and shaking my head over the sheep following blindly along.


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  • Posted by 11 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Good for you! That's what we are in the process of doing for our daughter here. She takes the SSAT this coming weekend. She will start high school next fall, so Atlas is on the menu. My son is currently reading 'Anthem' for his English class. He's in 10th grade. I like that it is offered in his class to the students. There are small glints of illumination here and there. Few and far between, however.
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  • Posted by LetsShrug 11 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Maph! Just because schools have never done something.. (teaching what communism leads to) or have always done something a certain way is NOT an argument... if it's wrong (even a little) then it's WRONG.
    If parents teach their kids the biblical view of homosexuality it does NOT mean they're teaching homophobia! Unless you're saying that all the things you like to say ('ignorant" "bigots") are teaching heterophobia....are you in favor of teaching heterophobia...because your word choices seem to reflect a hatred towards non LGBT supporters? Seems like you think we're all out to get you. WE'RE NOT. Schools should NOT be teaching things that override a parent's choice in what they want their kids to be taught...in ANY area...not just sexuality.
    Maph, watch this:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErL9zPHdH...
    and then tell me 'he's overacting"...and that it's not "apocalyptic". THEY ARE AFTER OUT KID'S MINDS!! Wake up dude! (If 'dude' is incorrect...I don't care, get over it.)
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  • Posted by Ben_C 11 years, 4 months ago
    My daughter is in private school because our local public schools are worthless. Common Core is one of the reasons. Another is that public school do not grade the students since it might hurt their self esteem. The schools want to have them feel good about themselves even thought they are failing miserably. And most of all, public school do not teach the students to think or "connect the dots." Few if any are able to research and discuss a topic. At home, I challenge my daughter to think and see through the fog in search of the truth. One of her soon to be required readings is AS. She is in sixth grade so I'll give her some slack now - but she will read and understand it before leaving for college.
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  • Posted by $ Maphesdus 11 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The primary purpose of school is obviously to teach children basic fundamentals they'll need in life, yes, but at the same time the teachers and administrators are also responsible for protecting the children and ensuring that they have a safe learning environment. Part of that includes taking appropriate measures to counteract bullying as much as possible.

    Anyway, back on topic, I personally don't think the order in which information is presented is terribly important, and changing the order isn't likely to have an impact on anything one way or another. Now if the schools are using textbooks with information that is verifiably false, then yeah, that's obviously a big problem. But order is largely irrelevant, at least for the subject of history.
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  • Posted by 11 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    No wonder people seem to be locked in a fog. No stirrings against what they know is wrong. Just "Go with the flow", is the right answer. This speaks volumes about why nothing is changing in our government. Anybody left who still thinks for themselves is smeared and chastised into following the rest of the lemmings.
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  • Posted by Hiraghm 11 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I call bullshit.
    She's 13; her sexual appetites shouldn't even be a topic of discussion. "Whore" and "cock-muncher" sound to me like the epithets of enemies, not comments on her sexual deviancy.

    The bigotry is primarily on the side of those forcing the rest of us to accept the mental illness of some as normal and healthy.

    Call me all the names you like; I will always be unwilling to call crazy "sane".

    Instead of wasting time, money and resources dictating how people will interact with one another *based upon race, sexual appetites, or other irrelevancies*, they should focus on grinding the fundamentals into the children.

    Schools *distort* the role the Soviet Union played in WWII... but they also teach about the October revolution. Why schools even mention the Soviet Union in regard to WWII when they can't even teach our kids the date of Pearl Harbor or its significance, I can't guess.

    Rearranging the order in which information is presented... teach about Hiroshima and Nagasaki first, and Pearl Harbor last, and those mushy little minds will end up "feeling" (cause God knows they aren't being taught to think) that WWII was our fault and we were the bad guys.

    Why is the Gettysburg Address even included? Are any speeches by Jefferson Davis included? Why not put the destruction of Atlanta first?

    We know why; to indoctrinate the children in the yankee version of the Confederate War.

    When my eldest brother was in school, my parents had to raise hell at his school, in the late 50s or early 60s, because they were teaching that it was the United Nations that won WWII, not the Allies. Now, there *were* attempts during the war to adopt the name United Nations, but it never caught on and was never used seriously during the war. And the U.N. didn't exist until after.

    But, the textbook makers were trying to promote the idea, subtly, subconsciously, that the UN defeated Charlie Chaplin and his evil Nazi regime.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DueSvcjn8...
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    Posted by $ Maphesdus 11 years, 4 months ago
    While I agree that Common Core is a bad idea, this guy goes on an incessant rant about things that are irrelevant to the issue, and several of his fears are irrational hyperbole. It should be noted that the policy doesn't state that students should not be taught about the Civil War at all, as he claims, but rather only that they should be presented with the Gettysburg Address first and then taught about the Civil War afterwards. While such a policy is certainly puzzling, he's making it sound far worse than it actually is. Students will still learn about the Civil War. They'll just read the Gettysburg Address first.

    His comment about the LGBT community was especially ignorant and bigoted. No one is preventing bigoted parents from teaching their bigotry to their children. Rather, school administrators are merely trying to provide a safe learning environment for all their students, including the ones who are LGBT. If bigots like him had their way, tragedies like what happened in Anoka, Minnesota would happen in every city across America. Efforts to prevent such atrocities are completely justified.

    http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/new...

    He also vents unfounded fears about schools potentially not teaching about the holocaust (which is extremely unlikely), yet he seems to be totally unaware that homophobia was a big part of the holocaust.

    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0805006...

    As for not teaching what Communism leads to, that's never been a part of any school curriculum, at least as far as I'm aware. Schools teach about the roll the Soviet Union played in World War II, but an in depth discussion of what Communism actually is has never been part of the curriculum in the first place, so it's not possible to remove it, because it was never there to begin with.

    Ultimately, he's overreacting to what amounts to nothing more than a rearranging of the order in which information is presented (present the Gettysburg Address first, and then teach about the Civil War afterwards). The schools are not removing any existing curriculum, just switching the order up a bit. Is it kind of stupid and pointless? Yes it is. But it is NOT the apocalyptic removal of curriculum he claims it is, and to present it as such is disingenuous.
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