Here we go...again...
Posted by MinorLiberator 10 years, 1 month ago to Politics
Greetings, fellow strikers. I am new to The Gulch. At least this one. I was fortunate to discover the fictional one in 1969. This is my first post, but not my last.
One of the very first posts I read as a new member was on this topic. While it was an informative post from a technical standpoint, I don't think the minutia of IP addresses etc. are really relevant to the issue, and are in fact a (perhaps intentional) distraction.
I believe this article is more to the important points, even more so in that it shows the beginnings of what I felt to be the almost certain classic Clintonian response. I claim no special savant status there, as Clinton damage control responses are as predictable as a bad sitcom.
To be more specific, I believe there is enough evidence, hard, real evidence based on past Clinton scandals to suggest that Hillary knew precisely what she was doing when she set up a private email server, and it had nothing to do with "convenience", and everything to do with knowingly maintaining the secrecy of her correspondence. Note that my use of the term secrecy vs. private is conscious and intentional
Call me a romantic, but I prefer to see things as they can be and should be, not simply the way they are.
What Hillary SHOULD have done is what every other honest employee of an organization, be it government or private, does: for work emails, use the system provided by your employer.
What Hillary did do would be unacceptable for mere mortals, and reeks of someone, again, wanting to keep secrets. Does anyone, except some really naive and trusting people, believe that those 55,000 emails she wants released represent all of the emails the public has a right to see? I really don't think so.
There will be more on this story and other things to post I'm sure. But I think the telling fact in this article is the beginning of the line that the server contains both official and private emails, and golly gee whiz, I'll be the one to decide what's released, and "this server will remain private". It is that last point that we must keep, and have a right to keep, from happening.
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One of the very first posts I read as a new member was on this topic. While it was an informative post from a technical standpoint, I don't think the minutia of IP addresses etc. are really relevant to the issue, and are in fact a (perhaps intentional) distraction.
I believe this article is more to the important points, even more so in that it shows the beginnings of what I felt to be the almost certain classic Clintonian response. I claim no special savant status there, as Clinton damage control responses are as predictable as a bad sitcom.
To be more specific, I believe there is enough evidence, hard, real evidence based on past Clinton scandals to suggest that Hillary knew precisely what she was doing when she set up a private email server, and it had nothing to do with "convenience", and everything to do with knowingly maintaining the secrecy of her correspondence. Note that my use of the term secrecy vs. private is conscious and intentional
Call me a romantic, but I prefer to see things as they can be and should be, not simply the way they are.
What Hillary SHOULD have done is what every other honest employee of an organization, be it government or private, does: for work emails, use the system provided by your employer.
What Hillary did do would be unacceptable for mere mortals, and reeks of someone, again, wanting to keep secrets. Does anyone, except some really naive and trusting people, believe that those 55,000 emails she wants released represent all of the emails the public has a right to see? I really don't think so.
There will be more on this story and other things to post I'm sure. But I think the telling fact in this article is the beginning of the line that the server contains both official and private emails, and golly gee whiz, I'll be the one to decide what's released, and "this server will remain private". It is that last point that we must keep, and have a right to keep, from happening.
(edited for actypo)
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Conservatives should paint them with this brush to the middle class
This is why I am all ready tired of this subject.
(Psst, those were the pigs).
She should be tried and convicted and thrown in federal prison. It's as simple as that.
She says that it was "an email system acquired for the former president". Yeah, right, all he does in an official capacity is attend funerals and weddings. The DNS MX record for the domain points to 1and1.com mail servers... it's "private" but its a private Infrastructure as a Service (IaaS) small business type offering from 1and1.com - probably with a small biz hosting web site. deal. Not much more than GoDaddy for $10 a month. That's why she's being vague and cryptic.
Can she trust EVERYONE at 1and1 to not access something as juicy as emails sent/received by a sitting US Secretary of State? It's absurd. She should be facing charges.
It's also entirely likely that she was using a non-secure email client platform, like POP3 or IMAP... also greatly risking cyber security. It's a certainty that multiple other state-sponsored intelligence agencies had deeply-penetrated her email account. Since she was probably copied on a boatload of emails not even specifically to her, they would have been seeing pretty much everything going on at the State Department.
If this was anyone else, there would be handcuffs involved, that is for certain.
Scotts-MacBook-Air:~ Scott$ nslookup
> set q=any
> clintonmail.com
Server: 8.8.8.8
Address: 8.8.8.8#53
Non-authoritative answer:
clintonmail.com mail exchanger = 10 mx00.1and1.com.
clintonmail.com has AAAA address 2607:f1c0:1000:603a:28e2:dbd8:eb1d:d002
clintonmail.com
origin = ns51.1and1.com
mail addr = hostmaster.1and1.com
serial = 2012101901
refresh = 28800
retry = 7200
expire = 604800
minimum = 1800
clintonmail.com nameserver = ns51.1and1.com.
clintonmail.com nameserver = ns52.1and1.com.
clintonmail.com mail exchanger = 10 mx01.1and1.com.
Name: clintonmail.com
Address: 198.71.53.150
Authoritative answers can be found from:
If it was the Dem's turn the media would not be covering this at all.
This is nothing but circuses to distract the sheep from the tightening circle of the wolves.
ML
Yep, my head was about to explode right there. The two devices thing just... wow.
Welcome the the Gulch Minor.