The future historians will write that this was the pivotal overthrow of the idea of a constitutionally limited republic. Those who formerly defended it will either have shrugged or be dead.

The ones who don't vote (on principle) are more rational than most of those who do vote.

the problem is that bribing people for their votes
has become a national pastime! -- j

Your prayers will fall on deaf ears. “The difference between a welfare state and a totalitarian state is a matter of time.”
- Ayn Rand

Who Keeps Electing Them? Obviously the last time it was the people that came out in the streets in support of the false pretenses of Ferguson. And our Federal government response, is this the kind of government we really want, one that propagates false scenarios? The Federal government needs to be cut at least in half for starters. We need to elect those that are willing to do it. We do not need to elect any more politicians, period.

You are correct in your presumption that if either is elected, Socialism will continue to advance, although the Clintons still have their Wall Street ties. The latter may cost Hillary the nomination, but if it didn't, and she did get in, I think Hillary's true Far Left roots would come to the fore.

All the more reason to oppose them, strongly and loudly.

I agree totally. We are still a "mixed" economy, but definitely becoming more Socialist, and THAT is where all the stagnation and failures are coming from. This is anything BUT a "failure of the free market".

It's not just them, really. The majority of the people don't even bother to vote. (I must confess, this last mid-term election marked the first time that I didn't vote since 1972.).

George Washington once said that, "Where public spirit prevails, liberty is secure. Sadly, we've long since thrown away that particular baby with the bath water.


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I'm deathly afraid socialism will accelerate to a breakneck speed should Clinton or Warren win the upcoming election.
"The Great Experiment" aka "The American Dream" will crash and burn.
But maybe it has already.
Hence the title, "So Who Keeps Electing These People"
(I was itching to replace that last word with Retards. Then I decided not to insult retards).

hear, hear

I think what is really encouraging, however, is that confidence in the Press is also at an all-time low. I do not foresee changes to our system of government (for the positive) until the Press resumes its job as a critic of bad government policy rather than as a partisan mouthpiece.

The progressive / conservative thing is just one vehicle to allow politicians to talk about something other than telling their districts that a bunch of SBIR/STTR grants are going away, the local Air National Guard Base will have layoffs, and families will have to pay for some of their indigent parents' medical care.

Eliminating this one flaw won't necessarily make the problem go away. I don't have the answer on how to stop it.

When the people themselves are convinced that there is no universal law, that there is no reason NOT to indulge one's whims because of the future costs, society itself is in a state of rapid decay. It is only by building upon lasting lawful principles and upholding those principles that ANY nation - even one as brilliantly formed and constructed as in the US Constitution - can hope to survive. When greed, lust for power, and elitism infect the ranks of government, know that the seeds of downfall have been planted and are shooting forth their tender leaves. If we do not weed them out, they will grow to the point that they will choke out anything but themselves.

There is. A constitution with checks and balances and all powers not explicitly granted to the federal government reserved to the states and the people. With strong state militias and an armed populace as counter-balance to a federal government with minimal standing armies and police powers.

Oh. That's right. That's what we have. I guess it's possible to screw up anything if the people who are running things are allowed to completely ignore the constitution and do whatever they want.

Public union employees and moochers.

Moochers and Looters

Flawed people failing to head warnings, as in those voting for progressive agendas?

"They were smart men. They warned us, we didn't listen."
I agree with this, esp wrt the Ben Franklin quote.

I wish there were a way to fix the system so that it did not depend on smart people heading important warnings, in other words so it could tolerate a flawed people failing to head warnings.

Who keeps electing them?
The people who head the DemRep party control who the candidates are for national office, and the congress-critters in that party have passed laws that prevent any third party (imo it's actually second party) success. Since the people can't select the candidates, and the 2 candidates that run are 2 peas in a politically modified pod, the people are not responsible for who wins. The only real choice is to reject the system completely, and so far the sheep are still willing to allow the wolves to control their lives.

No, the 'Great Experiment' was what the Founding Fathers envisioned. Never in modern times had this been tried...no divine right of kings, no hereditary government, etc. We have been becoming socialist for quite some time now; however, it's been accelerating at an alarming pace.

If by "Great Experiment" you mean Individual Rights and limited government, then I would disagree. We no longer have that kind of government. What is on the verge of failure is Socialism in America. It is failing here as it has failed in every country in which it has been tried as an "Experiment".

I agree. They were smart men. They warned us, we didn't listen. Now we are lost.

That's absolutely correct. Further, it never ceases to amaze how many of the prescient statements made by the Founding Fathers (particularly Jefferson) warning of the dangers are being ignored with the prdictable consequences.

“When the people find that they can vote themselves money that will herald the end of the republic.”― Benjamin Franklin

Those are the people who keep re-electing them.