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Al Gore at SXSW: We Need to 'Punish Climate-Change Deniers' and 'Put a Price on Carbon'

Posted by richrobinson 10 years, 1 month ago to The Gulch: General
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" The former vice president focused on the need to “punish climate-change deniers, saying politicians should pay a price for rejecting ‘accepted science,'” said the Chicago Tribune."



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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 10 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    Of course not. There has never been a dictatorship of the proletariat. Just as there has never been unfettered capitalism. It's just the same warmed over half baked neo-feudalism with the same actors in the same roles. Once they proclaim the need for a privileged ruling class the whole thing falls apart.

    .The proletariat (/ˌproʊlɪˈtɛəriːət/ from Latin proletarius) is a term used to describe the class of wage-earners (especially industrial workers) in a capitalist society whose only possession of significant material value is their labour-power (their ability to work); a member of such a class is a proletarian.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 10 years, 1 month ago
    Does that mean he should be punished now that the scientists who started the whole global warming scam have owned up to running a scam with fudged figures - so they get get more money? He's a politician and it's no longer accepted science. Maybe he's still mooching off the moochers again for another million dollar non-green house? What an amazing asshole.

    They put a price on carbon and as a I recall let the permits be sold for a profit.

    Denier. number of threads per inch; in any fabric? Oh hell he's trying to say one who denys the truth about climate change - Works for me let's all punish Prince Albert Bore as a domestic terrorist. Did he ever have a real job? I think he's a few threads short of a skein.
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  • Posted by $ rockymountainpirate 10 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    Cool! Amazing to think they were swimming in Nevada. And Lake Lahontan is just a trickle of what it once was in the Pleistocene. Isn't it interesting that the climate has only changed in the last 100 years.
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  • Posted by johnpe1 10 years, 1 month ago
    whatta scam. . make the world kiss your butt and
    give you money for retirement, when you're already
    wealthy. . amazing. . I prefer honesty. -- j

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  • Posted by Flootus5 10 years, 1 month ago
    The whole climate change thing is a complete scam. Trying to claim that CO2 is a pollutant is ludicrous. It is one of the basic components of earth and something life on earth is dependent on. Trying to say it is a "greenhouse" gas is ridiculous when basic water vapor in the atmosphere is by far the most common greenhouse factor.

    I have two degrees in geology. Studies in Quaternary geology alone render the whole climate change global warming thing absurd. Talk about established science. I've seen the glacial striations on the top of Mt Washington in New Hampshire created when New England was under a mile thick continental glacier as little as 13,000 years ago. When I lived in Fallon, Nevada I was the proud owner of lake bottom property. As little as 10,000 years ago my house would have been under 400 feet of Lake Lahontan water in the Great Basin. There have been periods in the Holocene alone that were both much hotter and colder than anything seen since the big bad industrial revolution began.

    This whole thing is a power grabbing scam of immense proportions. It would almost be admirable if it weren't so damn dangerous.
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  • Posted by rtpetrick 10 years, 1 month ago
    Is this former Democrat Presidential candidate actually suggesting that we should punish individuals who have an opinion that differs from the government?
    Wait a minute!!!!
    Isn’t that what Obama does?
    There is a common theme here, isn’t there?
    Apparently the First Amendment of our Constitution only guarantees free speech for liberal Democrats.
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  • Posted by $ jlc 10 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    CG - You are correct at the bottom line. I too have done substantial research into anthropogenic Warming and I have found it unsubstantialed. But no matter!

    We can agree that science, technology, and improved education and standard of living is the path to take into a more benign future.

    Jan, not a steward of nobody nohow
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  • Posted by $ jlc 10 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    Biofuels have turned out to be a bad idea. Something like 40% of the corn harvest is now dedicated to biofuels, which depletes that amount of corn available for nutrition. Output of farmed land would has gone up 20% over the last decade without an increase in the footprint of agricultural land. http://www.rationaloptimist.com/blog/mor...

    If environmentalists and warmists get out of the way, we will have no problem in feeding the likely max population of 10-10.5 billion without increasing the amount of farmland. Indeed, if Africa and S.Am begin using modern farming techniques, we can probably decrease the footprint, release more land to nature, and still feed the world.

    Jan, sad when people suffer because science is stonewalled
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  • Posted by H2ungar123 10 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    Being so close to being President - a gagging
    thought, which brings to mind Gas-Bag-Biden;
    just as scary.....
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  • Posted by DrZarkov99 10 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    Unfortunately (speaking as an engineer that participated in the "Weather War" studies) science has become infested with a religious aura, implying the truth is a matter of faith rather than fact. I prefer to simply point out some facts that neither side can refute:

    1) 70% of the world's energy supply comes from carbon-based sources
    2) 20% of the world's energy supply comes from nuclear sources
    3) 7% of the world's energy supply comes from hydroelectric sources
    4) Only 3% of the world's energy supply comes from geothermal, wind, solar, and tidal sources

    If we honestly tried to flip this model on its head, by a vigorous program of building more "clean" energy sources, we'd have to use lots more of the supply we have the most of for production, construction, and transportation. That would mean expending even more carbon-based energy in the near term to construct the clean energy infrastructure. To restrain the use of carbon-based supply, by whatever means, automatically restrains the increase in the supply of "clean" energy.

    There's no "free lunch", and all of the push to penalize carbon production is simply a ruse to bilk the dupes into putting more money in the pockets of crooks like Gore.
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  • Posted by dukem 10 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    IMHO, the global warming hysteria (uh, climate change, excuse me) started out as a scientific inquiry, but gradually morphed into a tool of the collectivists who now dominate the national and international conversations. So, I do think the solutions cause more serious issues, the same as moving from capitalism toward socialism does. As it see it, this whole drama is another tool to bring forth massive collectivism, with the high priests gaining the adulation and adoration of the masses. It's the same theme and process done over and over again throughout history, except this time it will have far more serious consequences.
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  • Posted by $ jlc 10 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    No, jimjamesjames, the scary part is that 90% of the people around you think that he is not a joke.

    Jan
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  • Posted by $ jlc 10 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    The 97% claim was based on a retroactive study by an explicitly pro-global warming panel of their selection of peer-reviewed journal articles published in the prior 2 years. The panel decided that 97% of the authors, based on these articles, were pro-global warming. (Some of the authors demurred, but not many. You lost your grants if you were labeled AGW.)

    Jan
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  • Posted by $ jbrenner 10 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    Biofuels were once part of the solution, and I gladly accepted money (their value) for goods and services provided (my value) to those wishing to absolve themselves of their climate change guilt. That ended when it became clear that Zero would be President in late 2008.
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  • Posted by Temlakos 10 years, 1 month ago
    He meant, in that context, to urge people to make global warming a single issue, and refuse to vote for anyone who will not accept "his" science.

    He has the right to say that, and we're free to listen, or not, as we wish.

    And of course I recommend not.

    Because he does not mean a word of what he says.

    If he did, he would not live the mega-mansion, private jet, chauffeured-limousine lifestyle.

    He would do the "Living With Ed" thing, for real. ("Living With Ed," starring Ed Begley, Jr.; Home and Garden Television.)
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  • Posted by term2 10 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    Nonsense. Climate has been changing for thousands of years all by itself. Up and Down. This IS just another government sponsored power play to gain more control over us. If indeed the climate is changing, so be it. Its happened before we burned fossil fuels. Not to say that burning fuels is particularly efficient in itself. Its not sustainable anyway, as there isnt an unlimited supply of fossil fuels. Other ways will be found to get us the energy we want and need. And it sure isnt government that will get those ways !!
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  • Posted by term2 10 years, 1 month ago
    Why would they waste inviting this dude to speak. He is just trying to get government more tax money and more powers. I am so DONE with that
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  • Posted by gerstj 10 years, 1 month ago
    Al Gore's giant carbon footprint is an embarrassment to anyone who believe the GW fraud. He needs to live in a small apartment, fly coach and stop eating so much.
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