Oh, I hadn't heard that in a long time. I do remember in school if someone said Civil War, the teacher would correct him to The War Between the States.

LOL....
Around here it's known as The Great War of Northern Aggression.

I have always wondered why the UN did not stay in Geneva.
Personally - I would like to see the UN in Cairo - closer to where the real work needs to be done, and not much of a resort...

but anywhere out of the US would be good enough for the near term

According to Steven Pinker (Better Angels of our Nature) the statistics show that Peacekeeping missions actually do work. By putting someone whose name is neither "Hatfield" nor "MaCoy" down between the feuding parties, you have a better chance of working out a solution that does not involve killing a lot of people (most of whom are non-combatants).

What the UN gives us in exchange for that funding is the ability to distance ourselves from that process as a country. It is not the "USA" who is sending the peacekeeping mission, it is the "UN". This is important because "USA" is beginning to sound to much of the rest of the world like "HatfieldMacoy".

Unfair? Yes. Should we mend our fractured fences at home before we venture to other folks' fields? Yep. Am I frequently tempted to endorse isolationism...at least until the other countries say, "Pretty please. We love you."? Boy am I! But then I think how things would have turned out if isolation had won during WWII, and I wonder how many lives would have been saved if we had entered the War a couple of years earlier...

Jan

Agreed.
Lincoln started the big slide with his unconstitutional actions that caused the War of 1860-1865, but the seeds were planted by Hamilton and Henry (aka "Feetof") Clay.

I was glad to hear Graham m make this announcement. He best move on it post haste. If congress could show healthy bipartisan numbers on this vote it would send a hugh message to bho that I think might shock him. He lives in a cocoon. The problem is getting the dem's votes. I'd be all for it.

While it's true that in original concept, we were to be a democratic republic. It's been quite a while since that description has been appropriate. Edmund Burke wrote that a representative owed the electorate his diligence and his good judgement. In this new century of ours, we are getting neither.

Exactly. Flimsy Gramnesty has way too long a record of noise and bluster and then caving to take this seriously.

I have said for years that "If your life depends on the UN, you're dead." That is now even changing to allow for the UN to SUPPORT evil in the world. Very little good comes from the UN even on the occasion when their "intentions" are good. I recently read that Nigera, Chad and Cameron and other other African countries are joining to fight Boko Haram and the UN is not supporting and possibly even hampering their efforts.

Hear hear!
Send them to Brussels, where they really belong.

We should remove ourselves from the UN and tell them to find another country and take their building with them. We'll get Trump to build something better on the site. UN is total waste of $$!

Courage is also needed to counteract Opinocchio's favorite water boy, the RINO House Boo-hoo Speaker, who takes true conservative opponents off of committees, doing such angry little boy things.

I've posted that for years in various places.
With the exception of actually destroying ISIS, why are we printing money for anyone outside our country?

http://www.usdebtclock.org/

Whatever BHO proposes can be countered by congress. One just needs to know how. Somewhere among the GOP there must be a man who either knows the senate/congressional rules from the inside out, or has someone on his staff that does. It's time to have the courage to counter every Barry move, make it a priority, now that they have the majority. Otherwise, they're just a bunch of thumb-suckers.

Thats why it was designed to be a republic, not a democracy. Would have been better yet as an association of independent states under the articles of confederation. Combined together only to facilitate trade and defend liberty of the several states. But Alexander Hamilton and his banksters couldn't pervert and control that as easily, so they used fear of european armies to destroy it and impose the constitution without even a bill of rights. We need an army of Thomas Jeffersons, Aaron Burrs, and Andrew Jacksons to regain what has been stolen,

I'm with you.

It seems clear to me that the UN isn't long for this world anyway.

Like the League of Nations and Congress of Vienna before it, the UN's purpose in being is to freeze in place the result of the World War it was founded after -- and what's left of that result isn't going to last no matter what the UN does now.

There is about to be another World War. And whatever triggers it, I'm not at all confident that the US will win. Most people here no longer "believe in" our country -- and it may not be possible to reverse that, because the country has splintered into so many groups with differing demands. The Middle East has also splintered -- but China has not.

I wish I were not living in a major city right now.

Go all the way. Get out of the UN completely and kick it out of the US.

good luck, he is nothing more than a mouth.

Empty chatter...Worthless. These GOP Republicrats, Demicans or whatever you want to call the spineless GOP, they don't have the balls, primarily because they are no different than the spendthrift, liberals hell bent on controlling everyone and everything..

Just love how well Obama is playing with the others.

Alexander Tytler wrote:
"A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government. A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy, which is always followed by a dictatorship.
The average age of the world's greatest civilisations from the beginning of history has been about 200 years. During those 200 years, these nations always progressed through the following sequence: From bondage to spiritual faith; From spiritual faith to great courage; From courage to liberty; From liberty to abundance; From abundance to selfishness; From selfishness to complacency; From complacency to apathy; From apathy to dependence; From dependence back into bondage."
It's really not too hard to discern where we are on this timeline.

Sounds a lot like dictatorship to me.

The fact is that there is nothing at all that we as individuals can do about any of the things we all gripe about.

That's why I decided several years ago that I'd just sit it all out.

Our "we" is not the "we" that they will listen to. Unless you have a way to force them out.
That would include forcing out the elite in the Dark Center and NYC.
While I agree with your suggestion, it isn't a practical solution at present.