Other than "The real purpose" I agree. Its the hidden purpose. The real purpose is to reciprocate force on those that initiate it against another in order to deter the use of force by anyone. It is failing to fulfill this purpose on nearly every level except perhaps enforcing patent rights.

A segment of the American people are completely represented by the current direction. I have a sister that is one of them. She has 5 kids that are all part of the "free stuff" nonsense. They are well represented.

The issue is not a lack of representation but that stake holders in our country are smaller than the non-stake holders. The representation swings to the near 50% that have no stake in the country, other than to draw from it in some way.

... for good people to be apathetic and do nothing?

Well you know what happens at the bottom of a hill? You have to clime back up or stay at the bottom, and who likes to be a bottom feeder?

Its the point at which we realize our folly and start to climb back up that I am looking forward to, perhaps it coming up slowly

The real purpose of government is the protection and expansion of itself and its minions. Thats why it hardly EVER is successful with its programs. The declared beneficiaries arent in their sights at all- its just the continuation and expansion of government that they want to accomplish. And they do that very well

Fearless Leader has fully weaponized all agencies of the Government. The same Justice depart that overlooks Lois Lerner destroys Bob Menendez for standing against a few Obama policies. In America today, even the elite have to take care to follow the company creed.

I would suggest you consider making a post on the topic and let's see what comes of it. :)

IMHO that is what it is all about. I'm here to learn as much as I am to share thought. :)

"What's the matter, Mr. Rearden? Would you rather I were a law-abiding citizen? If so, which law should I abide by? Directive 10-289?"

- Ragnar Danneskjöld

The DoJ themselves were in on it. They're all in on it. This should tell people why we should press to cut out as much government as possible. And to explore alternative, even voluntary, means of paying the police, military, and law courts.

On other forums I've had people ask me that very thing: should people who think "police" and "brutality" always go together, face a fine if they don't support the police through taxes? Should those who object, conscientiously, politically, or for any reason or no reason, to going to war, face a fine if they do not support the military through taxes?

Lay aside for the moment that we now are talking about core functions of government. Let's examine Rand's bare-bones proposals to make the compulsion aspect of government support go away. She suggested a government lottery. "There are other methods," she said. But she never said what other methods. We should discuss those now.

The American people have absolutely no representation. The American government is practically void of any honor and conviction.

We are all students to some extent. Keep up the good work allosaur !

Like the Gulch. I start a thread and I'm the one who learns something.

Yes, it is an excellent read, and includes interesting history lesson on gun laws, too.

I'm not the intellectual giant in the Gulch so I went on a search . . .

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unintended_...

. . . interesting. Me dino likes kick-butt fiction.

Who is Henry Bowman?

Wow. You could have knocked me over with a bowling pin.

You know, we all have always hated the IRS, but in a non-prejudicial way. Everyone from both sides of the equation have always felt that we're all getting screwed regardless of our political beliefs. And oddly enough, that's what gave the IRS it's credibility and it's legitimacy. But now, at long last, it's being shown for what it is...a weapon of political expediency. Now none of us trust them, and it's downhill from there I'm afraid.

Apparently we have entered a time when evil has everything it needs to thrive in this country... and actually it only needs ONE thing.