Consider it a gift.

The concept "rationality" does not mean mistakes cannot be made. Even a rational person can be mistaken. Rationality is a self correcting system; and it's method is logic. It literally means to use logic to arrive at the "truth". And the 'truth' of the matter means that it is real, it is in reality, it exists. To arrive at the truth is to arrive at reality!! Reality is. But it is for you to answer "what it is". And so the task of rationality is "to ask the right question". The answer(reality) is there already but the 'question' is for your mind to ask. Do you understand, the function of the mind is to ask questions! Thankfully, rationality can be taught; otherwise there would be no hope for you, and your own nativity toward the concept. Yeah, even a liberal can be taught to be rational. Think of it like this, one does not start out rational and work their way toward nativity. One starts out naive until one gains knowledge. So, the liberal and the naive just have to work their brain cells that little bit more to catch up to you. I say they are capable of catching up. Or are your powers of logical persuasion inadequate to the task? What has been your input to the cause of rationality and how do you defend your rights?

Seems to reflect a friend of my wife's. The guy is so 'out there' - wearing dresses, going to drag contests, etc., that you only have to chuckle, and he's completely harmless to straight guys, which I appreciate. I agree, I'd rather not look at a couple of dudes with thick beards making out.

It was good. I would not have expected to be as fascinated as I was. The slight curve of the design on the harpsichord was what brought me around to thinking the Tim may have replicated Vermeer's optical tool rather than just finding a new and innovative was it could have been accomplished.

Now, where can I find a lens and a mirror and...

Jan

I worked for a while in a Farm and machinery store. One item we sold was work boots. A lady comes in with her child and she leaves him alone. He starts taking down dozens of pairs of boots and leaving them on the floor. I told him to leave the boots alone and go find his parents. Apparently he did because his mom comes tearing around the corner getting in my face and telling that she'll tell her boy what to do and not do. I told her to tell him to leave the boots alone. She tells me that he's not hurting anything. I told her that he's hurting me because I have to put all the boots back up so either tell him to leave the boots alone or leave. Never saw her again. Parents letting their kids run around like wild animals in the Walmart stores is one of the main reasons I won't shop there.

I live in the north part of Los Angeles County.

I think the problem is not 'gayness' but 'rudeness'. Just because someone is gay does not mean they have a right to be rude; just because someone is gay does not mean that a straight person has the right to be rude to them. One would hope that #3's conservative Catholic parents came to the conclusion that their son was still important to them...there are some Catholics who have no problem with this.

Jan

Since when are libs and naïve people rational???

Rational people, do not want the power of the government gun, to coerce their fellow man, is why. The right, and only answer, is to fight for one's freedom of association. Until enough people understand the concept once again.

"if you wanna be gay...". Really? Just like saying "if you wanna be black". It's not a choice.

Great story.

My very limited experience agrees. Perhaps it is precipitated by the scarcity of subjects and pseudo-underground nature. If one is shunned even if one is subtle, a barrier to promiscuity is lifted.

I have two male gay close friends, one who we go out with regularly. He and his partner are more reserved than most straight couples, which I appreciate, since as open-minded as I wish to be, I'd rather not observe significant male-to-male intimacy. However the other is so flamboyant, comical and charismatic, it is impossible to be offended by him.

I'm guessing that where you live, it hasn't gone as far as they want it to yet... keep in mind, last year we passed a law requiring schools to allow 'gay & transgender' children to select which bathroom and locker room and sports teams they "most identify with".

I don't get that stuff, use the bathroom that matches the equipment provided... As a woman, how's your general feeling to walking into the ladies room and seeing a dude hike up the dress and pee standing up with the stall open? Keep in mind... it can and does happen...

Similarly, lets say we have a couple of 7 foot / 190 lb guys that decide that they would really rather be on the girl's high school basketball team, of course, they dominate the field, and it pushes out girls that would have otherwise been on the team (their parents are paying taxes to). Do these guys go on to get NCAA scholarships in women's basketball from whatever Ivy League school (again pushing out someone that would have otherwise been granted one)? I would guess at the Olympic or professional level, that gets tossed out, but its already happening at the high school & collegiate level it looks like.

I have a couple of gay friends from high school, 1 was pretty obviously gay back then (in the 80's), and I don't think it was any surprise to anyone when he came out of the closet. Another one I was rather surprised about when he married his friend in Puerto Vallarta (he's lived there for years) and claims he's not gay, only his husband is. My wife and I hung out with him for a day while we were on vacation last summer, didn't meet his friend, but we spent the day drinking beers with him. He was still the same guy I knew growing up, hadn't changed, and in hindsight I wasn't totally surprised. He felt the need to come out and 'tell us' to clear the air, but I think he was expecting I'd be upset or shocked, but I wasn't (and knew beforehand).

And I guess there was a third, one that tried to avoid being gay, or acting like it, but made a pass at a very straight person and got the crap kicked out of him, haven't heard from him since he left around middle of junior year, although I know he was shacked up with a guy in his 70's while he was in his 20's... I'm sure his conservative Catholic parents probably disowned him.

Yeah, I can't say I've ever met a particularly rude gay person, nor would I give that impression... but you don't see many hetero people (as a percentage of a population) that will assume they can make a pass at someone and take them home. The casual sex thing, since the 60's, is definitely more of a gay community phenomenon.

Very true. If it was a guy, she would have called the police... but... call the cops on a lesbo for the same behavior and now you are a bigot.

I'll buy it if you write it! -- j

Holding to boundaries and principles is neither hurting nor destroying anyone or anything, therefore it's not a crime.
Using the legal system to wage a type of ideological war and decimate the lives of those who hold to principles antithetical to your whims is criminal behavior.
It's called the free market paired with emotional maturity. Grow up and go up.

Not only will you be impressed, but entertained!

OOOOOOKay.

Jan, feeling loving

Please forgive my ignorance about Penn.
I am trying to alleviate that shortcoming ASAP.

No, I never watched Penn's Bullshit series. Haven't had a tv in many years and no friend recommended it until now. Thanks!!!!
I will start watching as soon as I can find it ;^)
You have any favorite episodes to recommend?

You will love it

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You should make a video of that story and sell it to every store owner.

I agree..

Your "cynical" is my "rational realist" ;^)
If I believed that old saying "A cynic is a realist who's dreams were crushed and became bitter", I might have called him cynical, too.
Some people see things as they are and say why, Carlin saw things as they were and exposed the charade, often with comedic effect.