American Cops Just Killed More People in March than the UK Did in the Entire 20th Century
Posted by Zenphamy 10 years ago to Government
I'd decided to not post every Police killing this last month. I'll just do monthly rates now.
One of my earlier posts on the subject showed that police during the first part of the year were killing Americans at a rate of 3 per day, but during March, they out did themselves again. They're now up to nearly 4 per day.
This travesty has to stop. Arrest us, give us our trials--we don't deserve the Police State's Death Penalty.
"Just last month, in the 31 days of March, police in the United States killed more people than the UK did in the entire 20th century. In fact, it was twice as many; police in the UK only killed 52 people during that 100 year period.
According to the report by ThinkProgess, in March alone, 111 people died during police encounters — 36 more than the previous month. As in the past, numerous incidents were spurred by violent threats from suspects, and two officers were shot in Ferguson during a peaceful protest. However, the deaths follow a national pattern: suspects were mostly people of color, mentally ill, or both.
This high number in March increased the average for police killings from every 8.5 hours, to nearly 1 police killing every 6.5 hours in the US."
One of my earlier posts on the subject showed that police during the first part of the year were killing Americans at a rate of 3 per day, but during March, they out did themselves again. They're now up to nearly 4 per day.
This travesty has to stop. Arrest us, give us our trials--we don't deserve the Police State's Death Penalty.
"Just last month, in the 31 days of March, police in the United States killed more people than the UK did in the entire 20th century. In fact, it was twice as many; police in the UK only killed 52 people during that 100 year period.
According to the report by ThinkProgess, in March alone, 111 people died during police encounters — 36 more than the previous month. As in the past, numerous incidents were spurred by violent threats from suspects, and two officers were shot in Ferguson during a peaceful protest. However, the deaths follow a national pattern: suspects were mostly people of color, mentally ill, or both.
This high number in March increased the average for police killings from every 8.5 hours, to nearly 1 police killing every 6.5 hours in the US."
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When you have people like the ones in Ferguson who target cops for no reason, and just shoot them your at risk, My premise is not wrong at all, or the ones in New York. My premise is not wrong. Not strike two.
How much risk is your job? I know my biggest daily risk is stubbing my toe walking to my home office from my kitchen with a cup of coffee.
My point with the drunk driving kids is simple. Please pick a REAL issue. Your railing against cops is really unwarranted.
Yes the NC cop was most certainly wrong, and that would have been proven without the bystanders video. I am also willing to bet there is a LOT more to this storey than a simple random shooting by ONE crazy cop.
Also I refer you to the news of yesterday of the N. Carolina cop just charged with murder because of a bystanders video. Until that video was released, the cop claimed that he feared for his life and the video shows the unarmed suspect running away and being shot in the back 8 times from many feet away and the cop planting evidence in an attempt to back up his false claim.
You're correct that there are 'remarkably' few that are not justified. But in the last few years, as we see with yesterday's news and video release (taken by a bystander) of the N. Carolina cop shooting, that without the help of a bystander's video that the cop that claimed that he feared for his life and in all probability would have gotten away with it.
What drunk drivers have to do with this post is way beyond me. Please stick to the issues of the post. That is police killing citizens rather than ensuring that they receive Due Process.
As to cops day in and day out risk to their lives--they don't even rate in the top ten jobs in this country for hazards.
Check your premises. This is strike two.
Thank goodness the idiot cop was just charged with murder and is in jail under no bail and probably in protective isolation. I would much prefer to see him in general population justifying his action to others than getting special treatment from his brothers.
The latest numbers I've read indicate that police in street shootings with citizens, miss some 60% of their shots and of those they hit, they only kill some 30-35% of the time. So here we have a known number (⩰ 350 since 1/1/2015. The records of death I refer to are @ http://killedbypolice.net) of citizens killed, some armed, some unarmed, some justified, some not.
That, by historical records would indicate that they've shot at and hit 1,000 citizens since 1/1/2015 and have shot at and missed 1,667. Nobody tracks those numbers missed and just wounded, except some police organizations and one Phd at Univ of Mo. Admittedly, a 3 month period is insufficient for accurate measures, but still indicate a horrific situation.
I really wish I saved the video I made. I might have to do it again.
I had read some liberal media dribble about how dangerous guns were.
I have a nice custom Saiga 12, semi-automatic 12 gauge shotgun with a 20 round drum. I loaded it, and placed it on my porch at 11:30 am one day.
I then proceeded to call it names, throw garbage at it, and really get nasty with my insults.
Then about 12:30 the mail person delivered the mail, and at 3:45pm the bus load of kids came buy.
To my complete surprise and amazement, that shotgun did not shoot anyone, not even me for being a real jerk to it.
Based on the liberal media there should have been a blood-bath on my street because after all guns are dangerous and a fully loaded shotgun with 20 rounds would be a real menace to society if left alone.
But nothing happened. Go figure, maybe guns are not really dangerous at all.
I posted some interesting statistics gathered by the FBI, and to my amazement, death by any and all guns barely broke the list of how people in this country die in totals.
But the TOTAL murder by ALL types of firearms in 2011 was 8,583.
The Total death by all other types of weapons, WAS 5,668
The biggest surprise was that death by guns, the MAJORITY were self-inflicted.
http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/cri...
http://www.bjs.gov/index.cfm?ty=pbdetail...
http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr61...
•Number of deaths: 2,596,993
•Death rate: 821.5 deaths per 100,000 population
•Life expectancy: 78.8 years
•Infant Mortality rate: 5.96 deaths per 1,000 live births
Number of deaths for leading causes of death:
•Heart disease: 611,105
•Cancer: 584,881
•Chronic lower respiratory diseases: 149,205
•Accidents (unintentional injuries): 130,557
•Stroke (cerebrovascular diseases): 128,978
•Alzheimer's disease: 84,767
•Diabetes: 75,578
•Influenza and Pneumonia: 56,979
•Nephritis, nephrotic syndrome, and nephrosis: 47,112
•Intentional self-harm (suicide): 41,149
Of all the police shootings that resulted in death of a perp, there are remarkably FEW that were not justified.
But hey if you don't like cops, just send them a message saying please never respond to me when I call for help, Protect yourself, and take the perp to court and sue them then.
BJS did the math and – well maybe I should turn it over to them again:
In the aggregate, the two programs collected very similar counts between 2003 and 2005. A total of 1,095 law enforcement homicides were reported to DCRP, and 1,082 justifiable homicides by police were reported to SHR That is 1.6% error rate. You cannot even get your Burger at McDonalds correct 98.4% of the time. That is an AWESOME number of RIGHT choices, made under fire and in a split second of time.
Nice that YOU can armchair quarterback in hind sight every shooting out there, and say how horrible they are. Maybe you need to go out become a cop THEN tell us all about it.
You want to whine about 350 citizens killed, based on the stats only 5.6 were errors and unjustified. You want to REALLY complain about something, why don't you go out and rail against the thousands killed by drunk kids EVERY YEAR because their parents were too STUPID and IGNORANT to teach their kids responsibility.
Go find an issue that is REALLY significant and stop haranguing about cops who all things considered to an OUTSTANDING job day in and day out, risking their lives every minute of the day for less pay than you would probably ever consider working for, and for people like you who do nothing but complain about the job they do.
This report has exactly nothing to do with gun control, unless you want to talk about getting the guns of cops under control.
I would have given the post more credence if the word murder had been used or the number of incidents broken down by types of incidents,
As us the figures are too loosely defined to be of much use. Something like the children killed by guns statistics which decline to state how many in incidents between criminals or the age of children which counts all up to 21 years of age.
No substance no meaning.
If the risk outweighs the reward they stop, i.e. shoot them.
That's true of any citizen. If you pull a gun and point it at me, you deserve what you get.
You cite another problem that also needs fixing, but ending the drug war is more to the point.
I saw a sign a black man was holding. "Mothers should not have to worry about their kids being shot while robbing a store." "Black Lives Matter."
THAT mentality is where the real problem lies. Fix that and you fix the rest.
I can see it now. Guy robbing store exits after shooting the owner, Cop rolls up in his car, strolls up to the criminal, no gun drawn and says, "I am sorry you feel you have to rob this store, how about we have a talk about this. We need to reason out your actions and how this will affect you and your family."
Sorry if I were a cop, and a perp exits a store with a gun, I would already have a bead on his forehead. Order him to stop and drop to the ground and any hesitation on the pat of the perp my .45 would stop him and drop him to the ground.
You want to negotiate with thugs and criminals there is an AWESOME movie that should be the first training video negotiators see.
The PROPER way to negotiate with terrorists, and criminals.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oKwg6W0...
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