60- and 40-Watt Bulbs Banned for 2014: What You Need to Know | Decorating Guide - Yahoo Shine

Posted by $ nickursis 11 years, 4 months ago to Culture
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I had not seen this before, nor knew the 100 and 75 watters had gone to the dust bin of history. Maybe stocking up on a couple hundred and putting them away may be worth it in 20 years or so...just like the old PCs and video games today.


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  • Posted by BambiB 11 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Yep. You can see it with UV. But you need about a gigawatt. And you have to be within a foot. If you don't see it at first, just move the light a little closer…

    Someone try it and let me know how it turns out.
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  • Posted by BambiB 11 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Try Halogen. Great quality light. More efficient than incandescent.
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  • Posted by BambiB 11 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The average congress critter has all the technical knowledge of a cantaloupe.

    That said, the GOAL of CFLs is laudable, but the execution is the technical equivalent of Obamacare. CFLs don't produce uniform light per use, or over their lifetimes. They also do not last anywhere near their rated lifetimes (in my experience). In some uses, an incandescent is no less efficient, if only because the heat they produce would be needed to heat a home anyway.

    When it comes to "more efficient" lighting, my personal favorite is halogen for most uses. It's ~40% more efficient than regular incandescent lights, and produces the best quality of light you can get for anything like a reasonable price. LEDs are also a pretty good choice - but buy them on EBay, not in the local store.

    Finally, if you want to stock up on 60Watters before they become unavailable, you can buy a case of 24 for $9 on Amazon. At 37 cents a bulb (and free shipping if you have "Prime"), it could be a nice bridge from "banned bulbs" to "reasonably priced, comparable quality light" replacements.
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  • Posted by Boborobdos 11 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The CFLs are not "mercury filled." It's a tiny amount... Less than would be in the coal that is burned for the inefficient incandescents.

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  • Posted by Ob1 11 years, 4 months ago
    Aside from all the nanny state regulatory overreach issues, the "green spike" technical problem with many LEDs in cine & photo work is that they have a discontinuous spectral signature which is not readily measured by currently designed color meters. The Kelvin scale does not resolve green spikes in the spectra. I hope that the smarter LED manufacturers will be able to tweak their phosphor formulas to adjust for this. " White" LEDs are blue, covered with either a yellow phosphor for cool 'daylight' or a yellow orange for "warm white". Photographically & for general use, the expedient solution is to use a movie lighting gel, Lee, Rosco etc in 1/4 to 1/2 Magenta / minus green. It will depend on the phosphors of the LED. There are also diffusing gels but every time you throw a filter over a light source the light output drops, so you need a 50, 70 or 100W LED to compensate. The marketplace is coming around gradually. In the meantime components are on ebay etc for DIY.
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  • Posted by Hiraghm 11 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I'm often reminded by a joke in "Footfall" whenever I hear about the banning of incandescent bulbs:

    "Q: How many Snouts does it take to screw in a lightbulb?"

    "A: None; they've invented torches".

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  • Posted by $ 11 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    We in Oregon have been saying that for years. 2 counties elect the Govenator, who is an ex doctor with no clue as to what is going on. He is so sad, he works in Portland and told the Houses that he didn't care what they say. He has a bonded majority in both houses so all they do is come up with new ways to tax us. I will never "support the children" ever, ever again.Theyt are all corrupt weasels. Unfortunately, it takes about 100K to buy a house seat paid biannually, and 500K for a senate seat. An ex Blazers basketball star couldn't come up with enough to buy the Govenator spot, even with his millions, so you know how much the Democrat sold his sorry ass for.
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  • Posted by graywolfs02 11 years, 4 months ago
    I'll add this to the mix.......Once we all are saving all that energy as consumption will be down... the Utilities will need to raise the cost of their product to be able to let the stock holders and upper management maintain their way of life.
    Just saying....
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  • Posted by $ 11 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Excellent point. You are right on with the bank balance comment. Never met a politician without a price tag tattooed on their forehead. You need ultraviolet to see it, that's their secret. Maybe that's why they like CFLs?
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  • Posted by Logiocentric 11 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    As long as an "option" to the incandescent bulb includes the mercury-filled, toxic spaghetti bulbs, i adamantly but respectfully disagree that it's "better all around".
    ...The costs for LED bulbs are not likely to go down as long as the government continues its fascistic practice of controlling the means of production and distribution via laws, taxes and regulations, or with subsidies for their cronies, like Jeff Immelt at GE.

    When there is profit in innovation, industry NEVER needs government to redistribute the nation’s wealth to them. Only crony capitalists who purchase and own the loyalties of Congressmen and Women depend on the taxes of working Americans to subsidize their crooked enterprise.
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  • Posted by $ Mimi 11 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Forgive, Bobo. His parent’s basement has always been a little on the warm side in the summer.
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  • Posted by $ Mimi 11 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I always thought they would kill the plan to tell you the truth. You and I grew up in an era that every other commercial was about the danger of mercury.We outlawed it’s use in most products. We’ve seen the devastating irreversible birth-defects and brain-damages it causes in young children from decades of doing nothing. There are rivers and lakes today that still aren’t save to fish or play in because of the contaminate levels. What the hell are they thinking? What about all the damn money that we payed out in taxes to clean mercury up???
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    Posted by Boborobdos 11 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The fact is that getting the incandescent bulbs out of service makes it better all around. When it's done at less cost it's good all around.
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  • Posted by $ Mimi 11 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Of course they will eventually have to offset the loss of birds created by wind farms. Ca-ching.
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  • Posted by $ Mimi 11 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    This spring: it will time for me to hit the yard sale of the yuppies who want to go green and unload all their old bulbs.
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  • Posted by $ Mimi 11 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    They are already charging us five cents a bag at the grocery store for the benefit of the Chesapeake Bay. My county isn’t close to the bay. I don’t own property in this state, so this tax won’t affect me. You could say I live in this state but I am not of it.
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  • Posted by khalling 11 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    what nonsense! They've always been relatively inexpensive. If people want to pay for the additional wattage let them! there is no shortage of electricity only a shortage of of individuals who don't relish telling everyone else what to do and how to do it and when to do it and IF they can do it.
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  • Posted by khalling 11 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    or making decisions for ME about what MY opportunity costs should be. the arrogance is amazing!
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  • Posted by Logiocentric 11 years, 4 months ago
    The only way that government can make this ridiculous ban effective is if "we" give them permission by obeying their absurd edict. i haven't and won't, and i hope you don't either.
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  • Posted by Stormi 11 years, 4 months ago
    Unfortunately, Congress did NOT do their homework on the CFL bulbs, guess they were too busy getting political donations. When I mentioned a German study to my Congressman, he had never seen it. Do these people read anything except their bank balances?
    The German study said in part:
    "But the German scientists claimed that several carcinogenic chemicals and toxins were released when the environmentally-friendly compact fluorescent lamps (CFLs) were switched on, including phenol, naphthalene and styrene."
    These chemicals, in addition to the growing reports by doctors of skin and other health issues from using CFLs too close. Add to this the emissions from Smart Meters, about to be forced upon us, and we will all face the Obamacare death panels.
    How much will our heating costs rise, when the old lights bulbs no longer help keep us warm as we sit by them on dark cold winter days? Government does not care, smart meters will still turn down our electric.
    How many of us can afford a Hazmat team when we break a CFL? How long before we are charged, as in Britain, to dispose of the evil things, at the Ministry of Light Bulbs. Rand must be turning in her grave, even though she predicted it in "Anthem".
    Andreas Kirchner, of the Federation of German Engineers, said: “Electrical smog develops around these lamps.
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