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Posted by $ nickursis 11 years, 4 months ago to Culture
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I had not seen this before, nor knew the 100 and 75 watters had gone to the dust bin of history. Maybe stocking up on a couple hundred and putting them away may be worth it in 20 years or so...just like the old PCs and video games today.


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  • Posted by BambiB 11 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Actually, no. I didn't miss the connection. And while you may think the military is necessary, many of the Founding Fathers would disagree.

    Years ago there was a brouhaha over the Marines at 29 Palms being given a quiz containing the question, "If ordered to do so, would you fire on American citizens?"

    The reaction of the Marines pretty well demonstrated that they were not (at least at that time) the president's "Brown Shirts".
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  • Posted by BambiB 11 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    As VanderBoegh is fond of saying, "No more Wacos". The administration (any administration, not just OBozo) will test its limits - especially if it thinks rebellion against the police state is a possibility. The problem with the "tests" is there are those who notice them, catalog them, think about them and plan for them.

    Back when California implemented its "assault weapon" ban, the SKS rifle was initially considered a "good gun" that needed to be registered, but not disposed. Later, the state "changed its mind" and decided citizens couldn't own SKS rifles either. This set up a very interesting situation - precisely the situation that Second Amendment advocates have been warning about in regard to ANY registration system. The government knows you have (had?) the firearm. You haven't proven you no longer have it. They've made the firearm "illegal". http://www.wnd.com/1999/07/3745/

    I recall seeing video of AR-15 owners shortly after the "ban" shooting at a local range and inviting law enforcement to come out an arrest them. None took them up on their invitation.

    At the time I was speculating whether Gray Davis and "Celibate Bill" Clinton would coordinate an SKS roundup. The way I pictured things going down was a seizure here, a government-sponored home invasion there, a few more, a few more - AMBUSH! The assault team wiped out to last man. Snipers taking out cops at police stations. Cops being baited and executed. Politicians being targeted for assassination.

    But it hasn't happened. Yet.
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  • Posted by flanap 11 years, 4 months ago
    I am actually surprised any light bulbs are allowed any more. Next thing will be outlawing the sun.
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  • Posted by Non_mooching_artist 11 years, 4 months ago
    Lol, I had posted the same thing! It is absurd! Plus, what they're being replAced with are a disposal nightmare.
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  • Posted by hattrup 11 years, 4 months ago
    It is so sad how far the CFL's still need to go to be what they are suppose to be.
    In searching for a 150W incandescent replacement a huge number of reviewers complained about the 42W GE CFL that dies in 1 to 4 months of daily usage - 1 to 4 hours.

    Plus the "brighter" CFLs (over 24 watts) seem hugely overpriced compared to the 13watt or 23 watt bulbs.

    A lot of people, me included, have serious concerns about the real life in CFL's.

    Then you have the initial costs ($10 to $20 for
    a 150W incandescent replacement), whether it will fit in the fixture (both bulge near base, and also overall length), and significant dimming performance.

    I think the CFL will become a dinosaur in less than 2 years. The future of LED's looks very bright, and the projected manufacturing costs
    look to be steadily and significantly dropping.

    Not that our govt would allow anyone to make them here in the US though...
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  • Posted by BambiB 11 years, 4 months ago
    With all the hazards for CFLs, maybe people should just drop their blown bulbs off at the nearest federal office. OOOps! I dropped a light bulb!
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  • Posted by BambiB 11 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The author clearly has, at best, a tenuous grasp of reality. On the one hand, he plays fast and loose with the Second Law of Thermodynamics. On the other, he plays silly buggers with the assertion that we will ALWAYS invent a new technology just when we need it.

    Turning to his first error - only a moron would employ the Second Law of Thermodynamics to argue that the Brundtland Report goals are impossible. Of course, in a literal sense, they are, because, at some point the universe will run down. What makes his "analysis" fail as a matter of gross stupidity is that there's no evidence that homo sapiens will ever operate on the time line that he suggests - billions of years. So is it literally true that "sustainability" cannot continue FOREVER?

    Yes.

    Is it relevant to anything?

    No.

    Creating a boundary about the solar system and pronouncing that "some day it will all wind down" in the context of establishing resource policy is at best pointless mental masturbation. The author's limited intellect would be better employed definitively establishing how many angels may dance on the head of a pin. And yet he seems oblivious to that. Instead, he appears to argue that it has some relevance to life.

    As a practical matter (and there's no point to the discussion unless it addresses practicality), sustainability has real and local applications, and we've scarcely had the ability to deplete resources for long enough to provide a reliable guide to the extent of our ability to overcome shortages. This is the author's SECOND major failing. He effectively argues that because he was able to pay his rent this month, and his power bill, and that he has successfully done so for the past 4 months, that he will forever and always be able to do so. That is, when he needs a resource, he will simply conjure a solution to provide that resource, or, failing in that particular resource (say dollars), he will be able to come up with a different resource (say, gold) - which may be used in its stead. Moreover, he makes the argument that he is so resourceful that he will be able to do this forever, regardless of whether his power bill quintuples, his rent has to be expressed in scientific notation or he suddenly has 10 billion more relatives to support.

    Applying the author's own absurd methods, and positing that there is a total of 71 trillion tons (~6.4E16 kg - about 1000 times the total of all known reserves) of phosphorous available to homo sapiens, WLOG, assume 1% of human body weight is phosphorous and that an average human masses 70kg. When the world population reaches 92,000,000,000,000,000 people, technology will provide a way for the human body to use a different chemical element in the place of phosphorous.

    khaling - your ability to plumb the depths of irrelevancy and ignorance continues to entertain and amaze. I don't know how you find such falderal, but surely you must have a method for locating the most twisted, pathologically stunted pseudo scientists ever to grace the internet. For this latest gem, I can only offer Wolfgang Pauli's observation, "Das ist nicht nur nicht richtig, es ist nicht einmal falsch!" I can only surmise that you have offered this link for its comedic effect, and had no intention of making a serious argument.

    Thank you. I got quite a good laugh from it.
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  • Posted by $ stargeezer 11 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    BambiB, I'd say you have summed up exactly what I've been seeing and what I expect from the louse in chief.

    Far too many don't know about or failed to understand the significance of the police a nat. guard removing guns from everybody they encountered in New Orleans following Katrina. Ordinary citizens who were just trying to survive on their own were disarmed and left defenseless against the criminals who kept their guns.

    People say it can't happen here, but it did, does and will again.

    This was not a presidencal order or a govenors decree. A mayor decided that the constitutional rights of these citizens had to be ignored "for their own safety".

    Here in Illinois, several politicians from the Chicago area have proclaimed that they would remove every gun from private ownership if they could. That only the military and the police should be allowed to have guns. If you think we'd ever trust these guys with enough authority to move on such a desire, get another thought.

    Diane Feinstine has said many times that she would order the military to disarm the American people. These sort of politicians need to be impeached as soon as they are discovered.

    Stay watchful folks.
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  • Posted by $ 11 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You miss the military connection. Military are sworn to uphold and defend the country from all threats foreign and domestic. That is one of the key points, no country can survive without the military. The top brass (just as the politicians) are totally disconnected from the enlisted, and have been that way for years. I retired 17 years ago, and the idiots they got with "degrees" were often dumber and more arrogant than the kids I got in my division from the hood. The military (including national guard) are the lynch pin of power.
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  • Posted by BambiB 11 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Well he HAS finished it. Then he Unfinished it. I met him a year or so ago, and he didn't look well.

    Sometimes a craftsman creates a gem, then spends too much time polishing it. Doubtless, there are some parts that could be better. But time spent making those revisions would be better spent on a new work.
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  • Posted by $ 11 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Rather than snipe at each other, I am more concerned about the effects described in the link:

    http://www.dirtyelectricity.ca/cfl_light...

    While CFLs are indeed more efficient, reducing energy usage (and costs to me), I am more inclined to skip to the LED bulb, when I can find one that is half decent. It did take 2 years to get to where they made LEDs bright enough that flashlights now are brighter with LED than they were with hot, nasty burn your car (yes they did, a police van in Dallas, TX burned up when one was accidently switched on) halogens.
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  • Posted by $ Genez 11 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Fallen Angels is a fun book! I loved the concept of the power transmission... I thought it was actually from a satellite though? Interesting that many technologies have kept pace with sci fi, by which I mean that within a few decades we were often doing what sci fi predicted.. i.e walking on the moon, communicating across the planet, beaming video, etc.. But power production did not? Maybe indicative of power monopolies in control? or government intervention actually helping to maintain status quo?
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  • Posted by Zenphamy 11 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Bobo;
    >>", besides some vague "market demand" what would you do to solve the energy and pollution problems?<<"

    Besides the 'free market' of individual freedom, demand, cost, want, available resource, innovation, etc., work, can't think of much else.

    Just picture the philosophical advances made during the enlightenment and the magnificent advances made in sciences and technologies during the 18th and 19th centuries.

    Imagine what today could have been like had we not let progressives and collectivist take over our lives and minds for the last 100yrs.
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  • Posted by $ Mimi 11 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Yeah, I live in Maryland. The five cents a bag is in Montgomery County but not Frederick, Washington, etc.

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    Posted by Boborobdos 11 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Hmmmm, no answer from Hiraghm.

    Fact is that LEDs don't need high voltage energy hogging electric supplies.

    Another fact is that LED displays don't need pounds of lead to shield folks from X-rays produced by CRTs.

    Fact is overall LED screens use generally less than 1/4 of the power a CRT uses.

    LED screens generally produce better color than even high end CRT monitors like Ikegami. In fact most folks can't even tell the difference between 720 and 1080 until sizes are above 40 inches.

    Large screen CRTs are huge and expensive. Large screen LEDs are relatively cheap.

    CRTs are old obsolete technology.
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  • Posted by Boborobdos 11 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    OK, besides some vague "market demand" what would you do to solve the energy and pollution problems?
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  • Posted by Zenphamy 11 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Bambi, yeah I've read "Absolved", I just wish he'd finish it. It's one of the better written of that genre that I've seen. But the 3% and 10% is what really amazed me when I first encountered it.
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  • Posted by Zenphamy 11 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    So true Euda, so true. But what worries me is what other parts they'll eventually move onto stepping on.
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  • Posted by Eudaimonia 11 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    "What are we to do?"

    Whatever the current whim of your current Marxist Overlords tell you to do, Winston.
    Who are you to question?
    Yours is to be the face for our boot, forever.
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