http://www.mindfully.org/Reform/Rome-Fel...
"This unequal portrait of the two forces would not only have been the Roman view: it could almost have been the German view as well (for the milling hosts are of Germanic origin, as are all the intruders of this period). To the Romans, the German tribes were riffraff; to the Germans, the Roman side of the river was the place to be. The nearest we can come to understanding this divide may be the southern border of the United States. There the spit-and-polish troops are immigration police; the hordes, the Mexicans, Haitians, and other dispossessed peoples seeking illegal entry. The barbarian migration was not perceived as a threat by Romans, simply because it was a migration— a year-in, year-out, raggle-taggle migration— and not an organized, armed assault. It had, in fact, been going on for centuries. The Gauls had been the first barbarian invaders, hundreds of years before, and now Gaul lay at peace. The verses of its poets and the products of its vineyards were twin fountains of Roman inspiration. The Gauls had become more Roman than the Romans themselves. Why could not the same thing happen to these Vandals, Alans, and Sueves, now working themselves to a fever pitch on the far side of the river?

When, at last, the hapless Germans make their charge across the bridge of ice, it is head-on, without forethought or strategy. With preposterous courage they teem across the Rhine in convulsive waves, their principal weapon their own desperation. We get a sense of their numbers, as well as their desperation, in a single casualty count: the Vandals alone are thought to have lost twenty thousand men (not counting women and children) at the crossing. Despite their discipline, the Romans cannot hold back the Germanic sea.

From one perspective, at least, the Romans were overwhelmed by numbers— not just in this encounter but during centuries of migrations across the porous borders of the empire. Sometimes the barbarians came in waves, though seldom as big as this one. More often they came in trickles: as craftsmen who sought honest employment, as warriors who enlisted with the Roman legions, as tribal chieftains who paid for land, as marauders who burned and looted and sometimes raped and murdered."
- from "How the Irish Saved Civilization"

I think Milton Friedman has the best stance on immigration.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eyJIbSg...

wait a sec... something you said rang a bell from Francisco's money speech...

"Then you will see the rise of the men of the double standard—the men who live by force, yet count on those who live by trade to create the value of their looted money—the men who are the hitchhikers of virtue. In a moral society, these are the criminals, and the statutes are written to protect you against them.

"Such looters believe it safe to rob defenseless men, once they've passed a law to disarm them."

I'm pretty sure he can vote for himself, without outside assistance...

(sorry, couldn't resist...)

And the difference being? He still wouldn't belong on SCOTUS.

Remember some of the discussions we've had here regarding offensive terms?

I find "Native American"... well not offensive, but objectionable. Living here in the (former) Indian Nations, I guess I'm more aware that there was never any unified "Native American" population.
It's like saying, "Native Europeans are the richest group in Europe these days."

I refrain from saying "American aborigines" because most people will go, "huh?"

Exactly how are you going to do that without filtering who comes into the country? Even Galt required Dagny to take the oath.
Part of the problem is also that American culture has been mutated to reduce our sense of nationalism. Again, consider Atlantis in AS as an example. No one who lived there would consider it "just another town". They differentiated between "producers" and "looters and moochers". And no one who lived there would be willing to let just anyone come squatting. Their border was truly sealed, *even though they invited people with the right mindset to join them*.