I would not argue their dedication to the real U.S. I just cannot really fathom that the government would WANT to take over any part of the country unless it was really bad, in that they have already proven time and time again they are incredibly inept and useless. In addition, they have never looked for real work to do anyways, and administering such a deed would require a lot of effort. They are a lazy bunch. I also am leery of any "unidentified" sources. I understand fear...but facts are needed

http://oathkeepers.org/oktester/stewart-...

Thinking about this, what if it is an attack page specifically crafted to put malware on anyone who might be interested in a topic like that so that "they " could keep track of where such people go?

Yes, that was good. It's too bad that whatever was going on has reached back many years, and people still get taken in the mistaken belief that everything done is always by the rules, open, fair, honest and real. Just like the Muslim shooting thing in Gardner, did anyone really think that they could have a cartoon show of Muhammad and NOT have a couple loons come shooting? That looks incredibly like "Bait", even with the cover story of it was for free speech and in response to a "islamophobeic" thing in January. Circles in circles, wheels in wheels...

I didn't think you were seriously trying to insult me ~ I figured you were only doing that in jest.

I'm with you on the JFK thing. What really says it all is when the media asks LHO, aka "The Patsy" why he was arrested in which he replies the police hadn't made that clear, to which the media told him he assassinated the president ~ take a good look at the nonverbal communication that comes from the visage of LHO: he knew then that he was finished.

Obviously, he didn't shoot nothing. As he said, he was just a patsy, but in my opinion, they didn't tell him for what.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ft3eGWZd...

Here is the opposite sides retort:

http://www.npr.org/blogs/itsallpolitics/...

It is interesting that there are other posts on this that take the opposite view and anyone questioning the Empires motives is a "paranoid". I think the British had a similar attitude about the colonists, they just could not figure out why they did not want to obey..or pay.

I agree with you 100%. Many times the "conspiracy theorist" misnomer is bandied about by those wishing to discredit honest questioning of the motives and methods of those who do not wish such questioning. I was teasing you above, in a sarcastic way, as that is the typical response I get from the "others". I saw a Youtube video where a guy took the films made from the time JFK arrives and makes clear connections to the fact it was the ONLY time that the 2 Secret Service agents who normally rode on the back of the car, were told by the station chief, forcefully, to get in the cars following. Funny, about 5-10 minutes later, JFK was dead. The bullets would have been stopped by those agents (their purpose). Yet the Warren Commission NEVER raised this issue or questioned it, and no one has ever spoke to it, but this one guy. After seeing that, I am more convinced it was conspiracy fact, yet people will still scoff and say it was good ol Lee Harvey Oswald being a nut.

The problem is when the "theory" isn't a theory at all. When you're faced with reality, then what? I'm looking at connecting the dots. You can do that by looking at the dots that led up to WWI and WWII.

The dots ALWAYS make a picture when one takes the time to connect them, and I don't like what I'm seeing.

I don't believe anyone here is feeling safer with what our gov't has been, is and will be doing.

Say it ain't so! You are just a plain ol conspiracy theorist aren't you? The problem is, you need them around today to be able to think out just what crazy crap the government will do, all in the name of the infamous National Socialist policy of "National Security". Our nation is lost...

For a good idea on where the engineered false-flag "crises" will occur, be sure to look up the 5 locations that Wal-Mart shut down last month. Also, I don't recall where I read it, but (you can look it up to verify) I believe the gov't has said that the most unstable times are the months leading up to the General Election.

That said, let's think about this:

JH15 is a 2 month long exercise. The exercise will conclude exactly 12 months before the "2 month" window that leads up to the general election of '16. Coincedence? I suspect nothing good will come of this.

Great idea! It struck me as odd that the underlying report, if true, hadn't seemed to reach the Drudge Report as yet.

Good for you, I never try to push an item, and am all in favor of independent data gathering. The item about the web site is disturbing, but then, it may not be "bad guys" trying to put something in the computer, but the "good guys" trying to put something in to "keep an eye on the kids". That is almost worse...

I'm not going to read the article but do a search for newly constructed prisons and note where they are situated...all are near train tracks.

Thank you! Good catch..

Caution !!! ----- After visiting the above cited url, I hit the back button in Safari Version 8.0.5 (10600.5.17) and was routed to a website claiming to be "Support" that presented a scary alert dialog box with an official looking Safari icon pretending to be a warning from Safari itself saying my browser was doing something "suspicious" and that I should immediately phone Apple at an (888) number listed in the dialog. This new page was not from an apple domain.

While I have no way to know if the apparent attack originated at the original post's target url or was a delayed attack from some other news page I visited this morning that only manifested itself when I read the article in question, I wanted to warn everyone in case it happens to them.

This also makes me wonder if the original article itself was legitimate or if it was maliciously crafted by hackers to ensnare people like us.