What you refuse to accept is the fact that government, in its raw power, can declare anything "legal", and, further, that a thing is what it is. A ceremony means what it means.

The mating union of a man and a woman as one flesh to bond for the rest of their days, as do many other species of mammal is a unique thing, *not subject to the whims of lawmakers*. It means what it means, and simply because two people with mental/emotional illnesses which misdirect their mating instincts wish to parody marriage does not make their parody marriage.

So, a wedding ceremony sans a representative of each of the two sexes... IS NOT A WEDDING CEREMONY.

This is not my unique definition. This is the definition arrived at by millions... and it is based in the fundamental logic that an anus is not a vagina.

Fortunately, you and your insanity don't, either.

Please explain to me what gave you the idea that I'm either a Catholic or a Martian?

Just as I'm free to choose murder.
Just as I'm free to choose a beast sex partner.
(Who's Caligula?)

Respect is earned, not owed.
It is not respect being demanded. It's tolerance.
Not acceptance, as is demanded of us.

Bobo and I exchange dings.

She wasn't as popular as the Duck Dudes. Plus, he was expressing his beliefs; she had expressed her frustration and resentment. Too many people can see themselves in his shoes, compared to hers.

How's that cannibalism thing going for you Hiraghm?

Remember transubstantiation.

Fortunately you and your theocracy don't get to define things for the rest of America.

Yes, pi remains an irrational number.

OK Hiraghm, I'll concede that you have your own definitions for things and that you will duck, dodge, bob, and weave to avoid the FACT that same sex marriage is still legal in many states.

The fact is that it ain't about legs, or your name calling. It's about love defining a relationship and the state has a contract for consenting adults that can in they eyes of the law make them partners.

If you son't believe in same sex marriage I recommend that you never participate in one as one of the people being married.

You would know, Christian-hating bigot.

Whether you in your mindless idiocy agree or not, it is clear that the bakers share my opinion that a ceremony without both sexes represented is not a wedding.

On that principle, one which requires no emotion, much less "hate", they could not declare a non-wedding a wedding.

You reveal your intolerant self; it is not enough that they tolerate homosexuality by remaining silent as they make a travesty of the marriage ceremony. No; they must, perforce, participate by providing the traditional confection to this perversion of their beliefs.

Tolerance has never been enough; acceptance and accommodation was always the goal of the perverse left, to be followed by intolerance and persecution of that which the have perverted.

A v-8 bicycle may be declared "legal" in many States.

Pi may be declared legally 3.0 by many States.

I am not responsible for their agenda, their cravenness, or their stupidity.

But a tail is not a leg, and the frenetic coupling of victims of homosexuality is not marriage.

I don't think it's icky merely for religious reasons.
(in fact, I have not expressed an opinion as to it's "ickiness" or beauty, to date.)

However, an anus is not a vagina, as someone recently pointed out.

Principle isn't the same as bigotry and hate in the name of religion.

Higraghm... Same sex marriages are now legal in many states in America.

Your thinking it is icky for religious reasons is your right, but America is not a theocracy.

Remember, even atheists can marry in America.

Well, you got one right Hiraghm.

A&E is a CUSTOMER of the producers of the Duck series. They don't have to buy from any particular vendor.

IOW, if they don't like what the Ducks are selling they can buy someplace else.

So, a woman is free to choose abortion?
So, someone can choose doctor assisted suicide?
So, someone can choose a same sex partner?

After all, who has the right to impact another's life?

Maybe if some christians respected the choices of others they would get the respect you are demanding.

A&E is the CUSTOMER. They buy the program from the producers of the Duck franchise. If they choose not to buy it's like someone not choosing to buy a cake. Nobody is forcing someone to buy a cake.

How do I make it clear to you people... I am not an Objectivist? I am a conservative.

A legal marriage is an irrelevancy. Calling a tail a leg does NOT MAKE IT A LEG.

You can't have an automobile with a cigarette boat hull, outboard motor and no wheels. You can call it a Mustang all you want.

I can claim a "legal marriage" with my auto insurance company; after all, we signed a contract. That don't make it so.

I could have used a Satanist cake, or a cake celebrating Nelson Mandela's birthday as alternate examples, but they wouldn't have made the point as clearly. I'm not going to let Godwin control and dictate my arguments for me.

I'm not invoking a "what would Hank Rearden do".

In Atlas Shrugged, one of Ayn Rand's main characters *refused* to sell Rearden metal to the State Science Institute for no better reason than because they pissed him off. They offered to pay him generously. He kept insisting upon knowing *why* they wanted the metal.

Now, this is Rand's own commentary. And Mike, while proclaiming his Objectivism, wants to call people who behave that way "idiots".

The bakery refused for the same reason Rearden refused; one of the necessities for pouring a ton of steel. Principle.

"Wedding cake bakers who discriminate against gays are idiots."

Thumbs down for non-sequitor.

The bakery did not discriminate against gays, it merely refused to create a wedding cake for a non-wedding function.
An idiot would look at the money and make a cake celebrating Kristallnacht. A thoughtful person would recognize that someone requesting a cake to celebrate Kristallnacht is almost certainly some kind of insincere agitator, as was the case with the homosexuals who wanted a wedding cake.

Only idiots think a tail can be a leg. The idiots weren't the bakers, it was the homophiles attempting to coerce them.

Please explain how the bakery was any different than Rearden Steel?

I do not regard Phil Robertson as an employee of A&E. No more than I regard Tyson foods as an employee of Wal-mart.