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Seems Truth is now "Hate Speech"

Posted by davidmcnab 9 years, 11 months ago to News
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Author Mark Steyn's confronting analysis, "America Alone: The End of the World as We Know It" is now the subject of a British Columbia Human Rights Tribunal. Apparently truth is a criminal offence in Canada unless it's watered down to nothing and infused with sweet-smelling perfumes. However, this reaction appears to have backfired, since the author and publisher are revelling in the media storm: http://yro.slashdot.org/story/08/05/10/1...


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  • Posted by $ Radio_Randy 9 years, 11 months ago
    I thought this story was something new, until I noticed it was posted in 2008.
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  • Posted by johnpe1 9 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I know . . . and it's awkward when "they" is the only
    word which will fit -- kinda -- and not fit. -- j
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  • Posted by 9 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Usage of 'man' to mean 'man or woman' has been deprecated in recent decades. Contemporary usage indicates we say 'people', or 'men and women' etc.
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  • Posted by johnpe1 9 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    and yet Rand herself used "mankind" and "all men"
    to represent humankind and everyone -- the classic
    universal references. -- j
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  • Posted by $ jdg 9 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Yes, there is one in their Charter of Rights and Freedoms. But unlike our Constitution, anything in the Charter can be overridden simply by inserting a "notwithstanding" clause in a bill.
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  • Posted by smichael9 9 years, 11 months ago
    I have enjoyed listening to Mark over the years on radio. I don't always agree with him, but accept his right to expose the truth as he see's it and he generally see's it very clearly. When any country, Canada included, clamps a lid on the freedom of speech by establishing parameters as to how, when and where speech can be used, they have started down the slippery slope toward totalitarianism.

    We may not agree with what the guy down the street says, but unless he is threatening to burn my house down, I respect his right to say it. If your opinion of our current political administration is different than mine, I won't threaten to cut off your head or pour gas over you and light a match. I will respect your right to feel they way you do while remaining firm in my own personal convictions. We do not need to argue nor fight in order to disagree. Sometimes, disagreements uncover a greater truth than existed before.

    The problem with Truth is that some people, to paraphrase a line in a famous movie, "can't handle the truth!". As in that movie, the truth is not always as it seems to be. When Truth comes wrapped in ideological bias or intentional distortion, it is no longer pure Truth. When speech is wrapped in anger and distrust, it may seem that it is now "hate speech", but maybe it's the real Truth trying to be heard. We live in the greatest country on the planet, one that ensure us the freedom to express what we see, feel and believe without fear of retribution. I would not have it any other way.
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  • Posted by fosterj717 9 years, 11 months ago
    That's the problem with liberals and Progressives, the believe that because something makes one feel bad, insecure, ashamed, etc. that what caused those feelings must be bad, therefore hateful and that they cannot tolerate!

    Truth be told, Truth when shared can only be an act of love and respect therefore, it is not hate speech or hateful. Grown-ups must learn to deal with the Truth, no matter how ugly or painful it might be. It appears that Liberals, Progressives, Democrats and RINO R's all suffer from the Hatemonger's syndrome.
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  • Posted by rtpetrick 9 years, 11 months ago
    The U.S. Constitution does not guarantee the right of people to not be offended. I realize that the statement has a double negative so I suppose we could deduce that, by implication, our Constitution must protect the right to be offended.
    Hate speech laws are about mind control. They will come to the USA....some embryonic forms are already in the Federal Register. What's next, Thought Police?
    Roberto Rossford
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 11 months ago
    Truth is, and I quote such luminaries as the leaders of the Democrat party, V.I. Lenin whatever will advance the party at that moment. Apparently the author didn't pay his party dues or correctlysalute the Comrades.
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  • Posted by 9 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    That has some merit.
    Australia changed the first line of its national anthem from "Australia's sons let us rejoice" to "Australians all let us rejoice". It has no impact on the metre, and now includes 100% of the citizen population.
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  • Posted by $ splumb 9 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Someone is already offended by "O Canada", SaltyDog.
    They're talking about changing the line "In all thy sons command".
    They're offended by "sons".
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  • Posted by 9 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    If you knew what makes things 'go viral', and how to intentionally create that, there'd be an 8-figure annual salary awaiting you at WPP or Omnicom.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 9 years, 11 months ago
    "Freedom of speech means freedom from interference, suppression, or punitive action by the government -- and nothing else." -- Ayn Rand. I have heard Mark Steyn expound many times and he must be licking his lips waiting for public challenges. He knows his stuff and I am sure he will melt down any challenger in an interview or debate into a grease stain.
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  • Posted by wiggys 9 years, 11 months ago
    Mr. Steyn is as rational a thinker as we have stating the obvious and that is to bad for those who chose to remain stupid.
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  • Posted by salta 9 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Always interested in why something "goes viral", I like that the effect has a name.
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  • Posted by woodlema 9 years, 11 months ago
    Liberals always called the truth hate speech. But I think the real aspect is they "HATE SPEECH THAT IS TRUTH"

    MSNBC Says Black Cops Charged In Freddie Gray’s Death Are Actually ‘‘White African-Americans’’ This is even a new level of ignorance and race baiting.
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  • Posted by johnpe1 9 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Thank You Sir! . if ""hate speech"" is outlawed,
    then our 1st amendment is outlawed. -- j
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  • Posted by johnpe1 9 years, 11 months ago
    Mark is particularly accurate in his aim, from my
    experience -- this must be good!!! -- j
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  • Posted by DrZarkov99 9 years, 11 months ago
    Only America has been so protective of disconcerting statements, even defending proven lies as permissible if they represent the speaker's opinion. While American speakers or writers of offending statements may discover that they can still be held liable for civil offenses of slander or libel, no government body can prosecute them for the offense as criminal. Pushers of "hate speech" laws have so far failed to collapse the edifice of free speech in this country, but they do seem to be getting closer lately.
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