My Political Compass Test Result

Posted by RogerMalcolm 11 years, 3 months ago to Philosophy
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Would anyone like to debate where Ayn Rand would fall on this? I have found a couple examples placing her at the center of the Libertarian/Right and another placing her more so at the farthest point of the Libertarian/Right.

As well, I would encourage a discussion on the understanding of Ayn's view on Libertarians as in comparison to Objectivism and I do wish to know anyone's understanding of romantic realism to a deeper degree. The latter perhaps deserves it's own post.



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  • Posted by 11 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Silly things guys do in groups. Though to be honest I was probably was being a smart ass or something. They'd do it during drinking games too.
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  • Posted by Non_mooching_artist 11 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I've read the Romantic Manifesto. Powerful read, and poignant. It solidified my own personal take regarding art/artists, and the role they play in a society that puts forth that garbage is art, which is just a reflection of the artist himself. Interesting. Amazon has it. :-)
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  • Posted by $ Susanne 11 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I did this before, it was about where I am 20 years later. Does that make me stable, unbending, or anally retentative? --lol--
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  • Posted by $ MikeMarotta 11 years, 3 months ago
    Ayn Rand despised the Libertarian Party.
    http://aynrandlexicon.com/lexicon/libert...
    "Libertarianism: the perversion of liberty" by Henry Binswanger here:
    https://estore.aynrand.org/p/509/liberta...

    The reason why Rand was opposed to the LP is that libertarians are SUBJECTIVISTS, not Objectivists. They want the political liberty to whatever pops into their heads (as long as no one else gets hurt). Objectivism teaches the morality of man qua man, i.e., objective values based on reason and reality.
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  • Posted by khalling 11 years, 3 months ago
    roger,
    the libertarian movement is not a complete philosophy. It starts with the axiom of non-aggression principle. But this fails without an understanding of property rights. It's actually a step backwards from Locke's axiom I own myself. Libertarianism is indifferent to Reason. Indifferent to A is A. so, irrational concepts might fly.
    what's currently in the works? a roller derby short documentary? I would love to watch!
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  • Posted by khalling 11 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    wow. so you do not own the content. dang-wish I'd been a fly on the wall for that-care to frame up some poignant parts of your experience in filming their interviews? I'd pay for that
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  • Posted by 11 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    With two people showing interest, I will be sure to inform the team of this. Though there are several docs on Derby. One I recommend the most is Blood on the Flat Track: The Rise of the Rat City Rollergirls and there is another based on the revival down in Austin, TX called Hell on Wheels. The latter is full of drama and how the 4 girls that started the team/league had a clash with the rest of the team causing a rift and eventual split. Good stuff really. Great personalities too.
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  • Posted by 11 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The Waco doc never got produced after the interviews. The producer who had hired me turned out to be somewhat of an unctuous parasite. At least that's how E describes him. I took the job as it was an opportunity to further my skills and experience, which it did. There is more to the story but really not the place for it.
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  • Posted by 11 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I was in the military where a group of guys would gang up on me and throw punch after punch without any advice or recommendations, so I much prefer his tough love over the kind I was once a victim to so many unfortunate times.
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  • Posted by 11 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    It might change now as this is the start of their second season. I have a lot of footage from when E started in 2012 and many practices that I filmed for the refs to study and learn from. Doing interviews with Derby girls won't be anything after filming the Waco survivors. I can guarantee none of their stories will affect me like the latter did. That was life changing, no understating.
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  • Posted by 11 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Interesting as I was having a discussion with my girlfriend E just last night about Subjectivity and Objectivity. I attempt to use reason for my conclusions and not feelings/thoughts as I feel that's what corrupts others opinions. Ayn Rand said reason was the only means of acquiring knowledge and Thomas Paine said reason was the most formidable weapon against error. I was declaring my frustration when a certain friend of mine declares he doesn't know if he knows anything while having a debate. It drives me crazy. It seems like anytime I apply reason to explain one of my conclusions he attempts to undermine my argument by saying some kind of nonsense ignoring my reasoning. Well, he might not see it as nonsense but I do. I have an extreme right-wing Uncle like that too who will ignore all reasoning and still go on about something that makes absolutely no sense to me. I was saying to E they represent subjectivity to whatever objective point I make. I always have arguments with folks where I end up saying this is based on facts not how I feel. I could not be understanding the philosophy and I was hoping to have someone explain it to me like a teacher might a student, hence the reason I am asking questions on a site where I believe would be the best place to ask them. So I am wanting to educate myself to better prepare for such future occasions. I am at a point where I don't want to waste the time talking to others if they fail to understand the importance of reason and how it pertains to everything.

    It hasn't been easy for me to understand all of Ayn Rand's philosophy even after reading it and agreeing with most of it. Perhaps it is much more simple than I perceive it. Though I do not feel it is or I am just over-analyzing it. I might be looking for something deeper to understand and shall just continue to read as much of her writing as I can until I feel like I have accomplished that craving.
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  • Posted by 11 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I had recently started reading For the New Intellectual after reading LetsShrug's Producer of the week column.

    I hadn't came across the The Romantic Manifesto in any of my reading yet but I will be sure to locate it. Thank you. I had came across her views somewhere discussing romantic realism and how she wrote the way she saw man should be which is the way I believe I write my characters. Though I didn't quite understand how this is so different from romanticism. I'm sure this can be answer in her work though.
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  • Posted by 11 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    To my surprise the team declined the offer to do a doc. on them. Though that was when we first started attending before their official season.
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  • Posted by $ MikeMarotta 11 years, 3 months ago
    Trying to guess what Ayn Rand would say, I stopped after the first display. The muddle mish-mash of floating abstractions would have lost her sooner than it lost me. The poll has no rational semblance of integrated knowledge. Even the NYT-CBS on the Tea Party was constructed better.

    If you want to know what Ayn Rand "would" say, just read what she DID say. Read "The Virtue of Selfishness" and "Capitalism: the Unknown Ideal" and "Philosophy: Who Needs It" and "The Romantic Manifesto" and "The Anti-Industrial Revolution." You can find the Objectivist Newsletter, the Objectivist, and the Ayn Rand Letter in your library or via your local library's InterLibrary Loan ("I-L-L").

    You want to know romantic realism to a deeper degree, but deeper compared to what? Have you read "The Romantic Manifesto"?

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