introduce these people to the self employed guillotine. then there problem and the states problem are solved in one swift drop.

Got another: "transfunded"

I just invented that, and it means the person has too much money and desperately longs to be stricken with unrecoverable poverty.

Furthermore, I propose to help those people, if any should turn up. I'll willingly take all their money and other wealth. No loose body parts, though. Don't want those.

I want to be transpachydermal. I'm having my trunk sewn on next month. The ivory tusks are a bit of a problem due to the current ban on the ivory trade. And we haven't quite got the chemical mix right to give my skin that grayness.

Sorry KH, I can't give you an objectivist argument for the psychological standards of normalcy. There is virtually nothing objective in the standards or definitions in the standards.

Normalcy is at best a vague and tenuous concept.

I do however feel confident of one thing. Those of us here discussing this would not fit a moocher/looter definition of normal...not even close.

The people spoken of in the article however, will be embraced as normal by the looter/moocher society as yet one more cause that warrants a very expensive and never ending government program to "help" them.

...and, you should pay for it, of course. Self mutilation is a form of evil, IMHO.

I haven't even had to help any disabled people i know. They are productive, creative and resourceful.

If someone has a real disability, most of the time I help that person and turn that person into someone who produces for me and then for others.

Trans-abled? The subject makes me want to vomit.

I cannot imagine what people reading this (with real disabilities) would be thinking.

well that was fancy. interesting point about groups of people fighting to get a foothold in our lives with their own agendas and causes. Socialists are one thing-but when Libertarians argue that there are limits to reason, how could one make a moral argument that to support these individuals in their quest to maim themselves, or just hamper their abilities by playacting? I think one could make the moral argument that until such time as we know there is a physical reason for people having strong feelings about doing something like this, we treat it as a mental issue. after all, that's a disability too. :)

Humanity has progressed to the point that evolutionary survivability no longer has the priority in determining life and succeeding genetic traits. This is just an extreme example of an abnormality that couldn't survive at one time in our history, without the state to enforce that society support and accommodate such atrocity.

Although at the fringes, someone will yell eugenics, the fact is that nature and biology and the species that inhabit those realms, have been throughout the long trail from single cell things in the mud to us, unforgiving of too extreme a divergence from the norm of a species. Whether these people suffer from a genetic abnormality or a developmental problem or just an obsessive desire to belong to some group that seems to get the attention--they're not compatible with life. For centuries, babies born with tails had those removed immediately by the midwife or Dr. In more recent years, a morphandite was 'assigned' a sex by the Dr., sometimes without the parents decision process, and babies born with detectable abnormalities that wouldn't normally survive were pronounce still born by the midwife or Dr.

As ethicist, sociologist, psychologist, social workers, and minority rights groups became more and more involved in our lives, they've fought to find an acceptability foothold in community through the abuse of altruism by humanizing the abnormal. I think to a large extent, this desire to understand the abnormal probably began to really gain steam with Freud and his contemporaries and the socialist of the late 19th century and has simply progressed. It will continue and as the ability to join technologies with biology increases, there will be more abnormals trying to survive and those dissatisfied with their humanity or seeking uniqueness, will search for satisfaction in more atrocity supported by socialist striving to alter the perceptions of normalcy.

Poof! It's gone.

I hope they are few and that it doesn't expand to healthy people wanting to experience life with cancer, heart disease, etc.

told ya it was good :)

It's official... now I've heard everything. Bottom line, I don't give a crap what people do to their own bodies provided I don't have to fund their shit. They own themselves and the subsequent fallout, financial and otherwise. Jesus, Mary, and Joseph!! What planet am I on???

This reminds me of the scene with the gunnery sergeant from Full Metal Jacket:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTQAXX08...

Being trans-able is at a psychological, and perhaps a neurological, malfunction. I am not going to be tolerant of something so completely foreign to life itself.

they wonder if it is a neurological malfunction. If so, I wonder what type of medication would be appropriate. I have heard of people who lose limbs legit-that they still sense the limb-feel pain, etc. interesting pathology. Losing a part of yourself that makes you human, is not in one's rational self interest.

Rush Limbaugh discussed "trans-able" today. Such people should not stop at chopping off their own limbs. If they detest themselves that much, I will not support their continued life.