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Atlas Shrugged -- For Adults Only

Posted by starlisa 11 years, 4 months ago to Books
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The first thing I read by Rand was Capitalism: The Unknown Ideal.

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THIS ARTICLE REPURPOSED FROM: http://lamrot-hakol.blogspot.com/2012/10...

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The other day, I was talking to my partner about Atlas Shrugged at the dinner table, and my 12 year old daughter asked what it was. I told her it's a book by Ayn Rand, and that she can't read it until she's 21.

My partner stared at me and asked why. After all, I'm an Objectivist. I think Rand's philosophy is incredibly important. So why would I bar my daughter from reading it until she's an adult?

I've felt this way for at least a decade, but given the President's comments about Ayn Rand's books being something you'd pick up as a 17-18 year old feeling misunderstood, and then get rid of once you realized that thinking only about yourself wasn't enough, I thought it would be worthwhile to explain why kids shouldn't read Atlas Shrugged.

The thing is, Obama is right. In a way. Let me explain that.

I didn't read Atlas Shrugged until I was 33 years old. In fact, other than Anthem, which I may have read in passing in high school, I never read anything of Rand's until I was 32, and I started with her essays. Maybe I'll post about how and why I got into those at a later date. But as someone who didn't get into Rand's philosophy as a kid, it took me a while to realize that for the vast majority of people, reading it as a teenager is almost inevitably going to create the opposite effect that Rand had in mind.

There's a common misconception that Objectivism is about being selfish and grasping and greedy. It's an understandable misunderstanding. After all, Rand wrote a book of essays called The Virtue of Selfishness. She spoke against altruism and in favor of selfishness. The thing is, though, that in Rand's writing, those are "terms of art". A term of art, or jargon, is a word that's used a specific way in a specific field, regardless of how it's used colloquially. In politics, to "depose" means to remove a leader. In law, to "depose" means to have someone give a deposition. In medicine, an "ugly" infection is one that doesn't respond well to antibiotics.

We're all familiar with groups "reclaiming" perogative words. "Queer" was an insult when I was growing up, and it still is for a lot of people. Yet to the younger generation of GLBT teens, "queer" is simply how they identify. Rand used the term "selfish" to mean acting to further ones long term and global well being, given the understanding that we are not alone in the world, and that what I do to others can be done to me as well. There is no other way to describe that in a single world, so far as I'm aware, than selfishness. Or if we allow a modifier, "rational selfishness".

But Rand failed. She failed to communicate this in a way that would be clear enough to get past the negative connotations of selfishness as meaning a blind, grasping devotion to ones short term desires, paying no attention to the world around us. Even expanding the term to "rational selfishness" didn't work, because people understood "rational" to mean "cold and unemotional" and concluded that "rational selfishness" meant cold, hard, unemotional, uncaring selfishness. Like a robot that lacks all empathy.

But adolescents are a different story. Adolescence is a time when we are detaching ourselves from our role as dependent children, and learning to stand on our own, personally empowered. When I was 17, I remember one evening during an argument with my father, exclaiming, "You're a person, and I'm a person. Why should you have any more right to decide than I do!" And I was absolutely convinced of my righteousness. Two years later, when my younger brother was 17, I heard him say virtually the exact same thing. I looked at my father and said, "I'm so sorry, Dad. And I wish there was some way I could explain it to him." But I knew there wasn't. You can't explain that to an adolescent. They have to learn to grow up and realize that the world doesn't revolve around them.

Which is one of the reasons why a lot of adolescents love Atlas Shrugged. They miss the bigger picture, and only pick up on the message that they shouldn't have to sacrifice themselves for others. Which is a good message, but they conflate it with their irrational selfishness. Their self-centered, almost solipsistic view of the world. And when they do grow up, as most of them do, they jettison Objectivism, thinking that it's part and parcel of the adolescent mindset they no longer need.

And that's why Obama said what he did. It's absolutely true that 17 and 18 year olds who are feeling misunderstood, and whose self is feeling threatened would pick up Atlas Shrugged and see it as a vindication of what they're feeling. And it's absolutely true that someone like that reading the book would, in the vast majority of cases, throw it away once they grow up and realize that we're all in this together, so to speak.

And that's why I won't let my daughter read the book. Because it takes a certain amount of maturity to understand that the kind of altruism that says doing for others is always more moral than doing for oneself is evil and anti-human, but that benevolence and empathy are vitally important virtues. The vice of altruism always leads to bad results in the long run, even if it may seem beneficial in the short term. Because giving requires a recipient. And if receiving is a bad thing, there's always going to be someone bad and wretched. More than that, you're always going to need poor people, because without them, you can never be virtuous. It's an ugly world that raises altruism up as the highest virtue.

Perhaps we need to find another term to reflect what Rand called "selfishness". The battle to reclaim that word was lost before it even started. All it does now is feed into the ignorance of the left.


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  • Posted by plusaf 11 years, 3 months ago
    Well, before the thread disintegrated down there near the bottom, I was going to say that I was introduced to AS by a co-worker when I was about 25 and just a few years out of engineering school (RPI).

    It drastically changed the way I viewed the world around me and in that sense, yes, it DID "change my life."

    The first reading took me about 120 pages to "really get into the book." The second reading, a year or two later, took about five pages.

    I've been waiting 40 years for the Movie and with some luck I'll get to see ASIII in my lifetime. Some decades ago when I had a dream of being a screenwriter, I got to talk to someone from deLaurentis films, and he said that someone was actually planning to make the movie, but apparently that was one of the times when AR's grip prevented agreement.

    Oh, one more memory... the guy who introduced me to AS accompanied me to a lecture in a nearby city by Nathaniel Branden. As we left, I asked him if he got anything out of the rather psychology-focused talk.

    Yes, he admitted: it gave me insight about my relationship with my father that I'd never had before. While we'd often discussed philosophy, the early 70s were a time when psychology and therapy wasn't held in high esteem. That lecture made a bit of a difference in _his_ life.
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  • Posted by iamA2u 11 years, 3 months ago
    Self-interest; long-term self-interest; macro self-interest;

    I read AS at 16. Was very clear what it was saying. I'm also in the 0.5% population for intelligence. Might matter.

    Also might help if you talk it through with them. Teenagers without guidance could easily go astray. On the other hand teenagers with good parental guidance could pick it up and understand it completely.
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  • Posted by dcwilcox 11 years, 3 months ago
    I read The Fountainhead and Atlas Shrugged as a freshman in college and the books explained why I had achieved the success that I had. I had taken charge of my life and focused all of my energy on mastering my skills in math and science. Because I had to recover from a difficult youth which included quitting high school twice, no one around me thought I could make it to MIT. I not only made it to MIT, I graduated in three years. Reading Rand's books helped me mature even faster than I might have and laid the foundation for a happy and productive life. In difficult times, I have reread Atlas Shrugged for inspiration. It's always refreshing and has never failed to help me "recharge my batteries" when the need has arisen. Had I read Rand's books at 12 or 13, I am confident that I would have done a far better job of running my life in a rational manner and I may well have avoided my turbulent teen years.
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  • Posted by Vinay 11 years, 3 months ago
    I read my mother's copy of Atlas Shrugged when I was 14. Cover to cover, it took me a month, a week or more on Galt's speech alone. It was not hard to understand. I was the only one in my high school who had read it. The Fountainhead's twisted personalities (Gail Wynand, Dominique, Ellsworth T) are harder to understand. I truly wish I had waited till I was 18. It's fine to read Rand's essays at a very young age, and even We the Living and The F, but AS particularly surreptitiously misleads the very young. At least it did so for me. The role models are all industrialists, physicists, and so on. Ayn Rand looks down upon accountants, policemen, firemen, movie producers, lawyers, economists, psychologists, even doctors & nurses. I know she doesn't literally. But AS celebrates a class that deserves credit and has never gotten it. Therein lies the problem. By the way, we use rational self-interest these days, but even that misleads. We ought to be simply using rationality as a virtue. The virtue of rationality. That is much harder to argue with.
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  • Posted by PaulWaddell 11 years, 3 months ago
    Yes me too. I was in University taking Political Science ans lamenting to my girlfriend how all the profs were talking about socialism all the time and never about captialism so she went out and bought me the book and changed my life forever.
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  • Posted by Rex_Little 11 years, 3 months ago
    My father first recommended I read Rand's books, even though he was a welfare statist. I was basically a libertarian (though I didn't have the label), and he knew what would resonate with me.

    The real credit for getting me started (at age 22), though, has to go to Richard Nixon. When he put in wage and price controls I was outraged, and got into political arguments with everyone I met. Losing most of those taught me that I needed more intellectual ammunition, which led to reading Rand.
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  • Posted by peterchunt 11 years, 3 months ago
    I first read AS while in University taking Engineering. I was not yet 21, but had a philosophy that seemed at odds with everything I had read until AS. AS put my philosophy into clarity in words that I was unable to do in anywhere close to AR’s words. I never misunderstood the use of “selfish” but realized that few others understood the meaning that AR was using it in, which meant I would have to define it for them when I used that word. I have followed Objectivism ever since, and can say it brought me in from the wilderness. I married a lovely lady who when we were dating, we would discuss philosophy, and realized we both had similar views. After 42 years we still are adhering to the philosophy. Of course we are meeting more folks who share the philosophy of AR.
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  • Posted by Owlsrayne 11 years, 3 months ago
    Maybe, the blog has some right and a lot wrong. I believe that opposing a teenager from reading "Atlas Shrugged" is not necessarily correct. My idea would be to have the teen read Ayn Rand's shorter novels first. Then if they understand those ideas then read "Atlas Shrugged". Then read it in a few more years later and after that read it a third time sometime later. I t took me reading "Atlas Shrugged" 3x and watching parts 1 & 2 of the movie to finally understand Ayn Rand's philosophy. That why I'm starting up a small home business at 63 yrs. old. Only time will tell if it works out. The only thing that bothers me is all the paper work that has to be has to be filled out for the State of Az. and the Fed Govt. just for an LLC.
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  • Posted by kpooresn 11 years, 3 months ago
    I first read AS when I was 17. Thought it could never happen here. second time I was about 35.. I got suspicious then. Third time about 4 years ago and we were in the midst of it. I am now 75 and scared to death at what's happening in our wonderful country.
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  • Posted by Danno 11 years, 3 months ago
    Until 21??? The problem is the parents stunting the child's curiosity which stunts intellectual growth (E.G. how mathematics is taught in the USA) Never do that to a child. Dangerous books? My god!
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  • Posted by jsw225 11 years, 3 months ago
    The problem is that you can't challenge someone to read Rand, especially a teenager. And you can't use reverse psychology to make it happen, either. If you trick someone into reading it when they are not ready for it, when they don't want to understand what is happening to the world, not only will they resent you, they'll doubt the material as well. They'll refuse to connect the words in the book to the real world.

    It has nothing to do with them being a teenager, or being in their formative years. I have a good friend who is on the cusp of understanding why the world is this way. Yet if I put the book in front of her, if I say that this will explain everything, she won't believe it. She won't believe me. You can't tell someone that the hot plate is hot. They need to put their hand on it themselves to find out.
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  • Posted by Temlakos 11 years, 3 months ago
    I discovered Ayn Rand's work when I was twenty and a junior at college--Yale College, actually. I found "Anthem" in some hole-in-the-wall bookstore, in the sci-fi shelf. I read it in two evenings.

    After that I went to what was then still celled the Yale Cooperative Store (now known as the Yale University Bookstore) and bought every book by Rand they had available. I still have those titles. though AS is so thick I've now split it in two from reading and rereading it.

    One reason why AS should be for adults only is Rand's treatment of sex. One *really* has to be mature to understand why Dagny Taggart and Henry Rearden did what they did.

    But the author of that article missed the point: Obama's objection to AS is that it is subversive of the moral order of which he is the latest champion.

    Remember, everyone: our fellow travelers elected Mister Thompson as President. If I were casting AS, I would cast an Obama lookalike, not a Nixon lookalike, as Mister Thompson. And for reasons that, I'm sure, everyone reading this can appreciate.
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  • Posted by deanhcross 11 years, 3 months ago
    I was exposed to AS at eighteen while finding a reference to Ayn Rand in my search for a ten page paper on Aristotle. I became aware of the premise without much of the substance. It took me twenty years to finally read it through.....for the first time anyhow. Read it several times since.
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  • Posted by $ MikeMarotta 11 years, 4 months ago
    I read Atlas Shrugged in high school. A friend of mine handed me "Anthem" as we passed in algebra classes. I next read "The Fountainhead." After "Who is Ayn Rand", VOS and FNI, I read "Atlas." In my senior year, I signed up for the "Basic Principles of Objectivism" lectures. On college visits that spring, I attended meetings of several Ayn Rand Clubs and Students of Objectivism.
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  • Posted by $ kathywiso 11 years, 4 months ago
    My father handed me Atlas Shrugged when I was 15-16 yrs old. Best thing I ever did for my future.
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  • Posted by $ Susanne 11 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Strangely, AS was supposed to be assigned reading for IIRC my junior year, but it was removed from the list and we were told *not* to read it. Something about subversive ideas and not suitable for "children". Strangely, it was replaced by To Kill a Mockingbird... which, while it was a good novel, I truly believe I would have enjoyed AS much more back then - and it would have had a much more profound positive impact in my life.
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  • Posted by $ AJAshinoff 11 years, 4 months ago
    I read Atlas Shrugged around June 2003 as my first and most successful IT business was in the final stages of its death throes. I was pointed to Atlas Shrugged by someone in Yahoo Chat who asked the mysterious question "Who is John Galt" when he was making his point about how Democracy and Capitalism was sophomoric and obsolete. He joked that Rand was fine in a college environment and challenged me to reveal who John Galt was and how he applied to the real world. I, at that time could not. As with Uncle Toms Cabin, I read AS out of a desire to understand what the commotion was all about - for good or for bad. Of course I never bumped into that guy to explain what I discovered.

    The question "Who is John Galt" can only be answered "You are and I am." Its a selfish question whose answer is grounded in self and is something everyone can intimately understand - if their honest with themselves.

    I wish I read AS prior to 1998 when I started my business. The validation of what I already knew, as a conservative, and the refinement and application of those tenants surely would have saved my company.

    When should AS be Read? High School - Junior or Senior year. College - Freshman year. Also, it should be read by anyone daring to venture out on their own to start a business.
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  • Posted by richrobinson 11 years, 4 months ago
    I spoke to a gentleman one day who told me he read AS in high school. He liked it but didn't really understand it. He read it in college and understood it but wasn't sure about the real world applications. After entering the workforce he read it again and it all made sense. I would introduce anyone to AS. It will change their lives when they are ready.
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