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Civil Forfeiture-They Took Her Vibrator!

Posted by khalling 9 years, 10 months ago to Government
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good cop, bad cop


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  • Posted by scojohnson 9 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    6 ounces isn't something you would take with to calm the nerves on your lunch break...

    I have no idea what the lock-up requirements are for a narcotic or controlled substance when using some medical marijuana card or something to obtain it, but seems more like one of those strong-box / locked-up things, not a nylon backpack with 4 teenagers in the house.
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  • Posted by scojohnson 9 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You are on the same track that I was on... I'm feeling like its one of those stories where some details are intentionally left out or something. It's like she's saying "I'm cute, so believe me".

    I'm not calling her a liar, I'm just feeling like certain details are being omitted intentionally or something. Why did they decide to hit her house? that doesn't happen without a criminal complaint... I'm thinking she was loading up grandma to stop her whining so she just sleeps all day and the family reported elder abuse. Having 4 teenagers, ipads, iphones, 2 in front of her on the table during her testimony, just doesn't really fit the profile of my experience with caregivers. For taking care of 5 geriatric adults, it's an 18 hour a day job.. no doubt. Don't get all riled up here folks.. I'm curious as to what started it.

    For that matter... could have been the 4 teenagers raiding mom's "locked backpack stash" and selling it at school as well...

    Something is missing in the story... (like motive, complaint, pre-trial hearing details, etc.)
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  • Posted by richrobinson 9 years, 10 months ago
    Some one has to find out why the prosecutor is sitting on this evidence.
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  • Posted by strugatsky 9 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Please keep in mind that the only actual thieves that she had encountered were from the government. Would having a better lock helped?
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  • Posted by Non_mooching_artist 9 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    It flies in the face of our bill of rights. This highly immoral and illegal seizure of private property needs much more attention focused on it. Sadly, the legislators who have tried to stop this have gotten thwarted by crony judges.
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  • Posted by 9 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I am sorry to hear that about your father in law. It wasn't clear in the story what her credentials were either. but if the state licensed her and she wasn't breaking any rules, they have no case. why were they bugging her in the first place. see, this is part of what is so chilling-how do you become the low hanging fruit to be SWATed? it does seem that drugs are always a risk for this to take place. I would not be surprised if these tactics are used to fuel power hungry agencies and line the pockets of those in charge. wonder if the Prosecutor is cut in on the deal. Michigan corruptness
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  • Posted by xthinker88 9 years, 10 months ago
    Wow. So much for "the pursuit of happiness" being an inalienable right.
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  • Posted by scojohnson 9 years, 10 months ago
    The forfeiture thing is dead-wrong morally, and I agree with others, they already sold the stuff so rather than cough up new-replacement money and compensate for suffering, they just want to drag it out further. That being said, "locked backpack"? What's that? A zip tie? One of the luggage locks that all have the same key if you don't have a pliers on you? Sounds like a stretch that she carries $500 in dope around with her to load up the elderly she takes care of... Unless to load them up to reduce their demands on her to wanting Cheetos and old movies on tv. I feel like there is more to this, my father in law has 24x7 care needs, he craps his pants every 15 minutes and sees biker gang members standing around his bed.., he would drive me to the point of just stoning him out.. Always a difference between what you know and what you can prove, but she should have everything returned to her.
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  • Posted by $ kddr22 9 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I agree. My oldest son lost a car in his name at 18 worth in excess of 10000$ for a misdem charge of marj possession, we never denied the charge just the excessiveness of it
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  • Posted by 9 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    and the prosecutor telling her he would take her to civil court over her stuff. It's probably already dispersed to looters.
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  • Posted by ObjectiveAnalyst 9 years, 10 months ago
    OMG... Party poopers... Wet blanket officials. Where do they get off stealing from this woman... er, um... sorry about that... :) I digress. Seriously, civil forfeiture must be stopped. It is nothing short of legalized theft. To deprive one of property is not right even after convicted, unless it is contraband, let alone before.
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 9 years, 10 months ago
    I thought this article was going to be funny, but it's sick.

    If she's like my family, she doesn't have much value in the stuff in our house. But having it all taken unexpectedly by fire other peril would be devastating. Even if she had committed the crime, they are not seizing real assets. It probably cost more to store them for a year then they could get selling them. it's not about assets. They're just creating a royal hassle.
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  • Posted by Zenphamy 9 years, 10 months ago
    I read that. That's almost hilarious. Just picture how it's listed or described in all the court documents.
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    Posted by freedomforall 9 years, 10 months ago
    The prosecutor's punishment should be asset forfeiture of all his belongings, bank accounts (domestic and foreign), disbarment, and banishment from public employment and public assistance for life. Ditto for all judges involved and any other public employee that "just followed orders."
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