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What are "rights"?

Posted by nsnelson 9 years, 10 months ago to Philosophy
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Too often these days, people use the language of "rights" loosely. A "right" is something that one morally deserves, and it ought to be provided or at least not violated by Other people. We all have a natural right to life, and liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. A natural right is something you deserve by nature, and nobody else can take away from you. Most fundamentally, we have a right to life, which implies you own your life (private property), which implies liberty, and if you own yourself you own your mind and your labor, and the value you produce (more private property), and the right to life implies your right to defend your life (and property), and the right to equip yourself for this self-defense. These rights are natural for all living human beings, and inalienable.

In some sense, the term "right" merely refers to a moral obligation or debt in general. If you agree to pay me $150 to play the organ for a ceremony, and I do it, then I have a "right" to demand $150 from you. But this is a very general usage, distinct from the concept of natural rights. Some rights we agree to (eg, trade), others we have by our nature as living humans.

Unfortunately, some people recognize the authority and security and prestige of the term "natural rights," and they want that positive association for other things they want, so they have tried to borrow (hijack?) this language. So they say we have a "right" to a job (and a certain wage), or a phone or TV or other standard of living and recreation, or a house, or free healthcare, or free education, or X (the growing list is potentially endless). But there is a big difference: to say a product or service is owed (like natural rights to life, etc) is to say that someone somewhere is obligated to do the work to provide them. Progressives are not merely talking about the right to pursue these things. The politicians and people demanding these "rights" are saying they must be provided to them even when they are unable or unwilling to provide them for themselves. That implies that someone "owes" them these "rights." Someone, somewhere, must be responsible to produce the value to supply these "rights." So the person who demands a free X is putting an Other person under obligation to work for person is a violation of his liberty. When John Doe demands the "right" to be provided with a good or service by Jane Roe, he is violating her natural rights.

The term "right" is rightly used for natural rights, rights we have in virtue of our nature, of being alive. Unfortunately the term "rights" is increasingly used not for what people earn, but what they deserve in spite of (or even because of) their inability to earn it. Their inability or unwillingness to produce what they want becomes a claim on the rest of us, an ever increasing mortgage on all those who do produce excess value.

Take the example of the "right to a house." (I don't know if anyone is actually claiming this is a "right," it is just an example for the sake of discussion.) Everyone, including John Doe, deserves their own house by "right," even for free if John can't pay for it and even if John is not responsible to maintain it (perhaps just because John is unable or unwilling to buy it or maintain it); if it is conditioned on John's ability to pay (maintain, etc), then it is not really like natural rights, it is just another thing that must be earned and should use different terminology. Where does John's house come from? Someone (eg, Jane Roe) has to provide it by building it or paying for it to be built. This means Jane or Other people somewhere, real people, are obligated to work for this John's "right to a house." This implicitly makes Jane and Others the slave of John, to some degree.

But this violates the natural rights of Jane and all the Other people now obligated to work for the John's house. The natural rights to life and liberty imply that I own myself (private property), and my mind and my labor and the fruit of my labor (private property), and nobody else has the "right" to violate my natural rights. Yet this is exactly what the "right to a house" (and any other good or service) does.

People like to use the language of natural rights because people hold them in high regard (natural, unalienable, etc). Ironically, by claiming the "right for John to be provided X by Other people," they are destroying the natural rights of those Other people, and so they are destroying the high doctrine of natural rights that caused them to want to use the term in the first place. A "right" to violate someone else's natural rights is a contradiction in terms.


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  • Posted by 9 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    This is great, thanks for posting. I thought there was a way to search this site (e.g., to see if my subject has already been posted), but now I can't find it. Any tips?
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  • Posted by DrZarkov99 9 years, 10 months ago
    The Roman philosopher and statesman, Cicero was the first to attempt to define "natural rights." His position was that we have certain capabilities we are born with, and that we should have the right to exercise these capabilities without external restraint. He cited freedom of speech, self defense, freedom of movement, and acquiring and owning property as rights which should be respected. Cicero's definitions pretty well fit with some rights as defined in the Constitution's Bill of Rights, and his statements date from 150 BC.
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 9 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I'm for experimental models with no forced taxation. I'm not sure how they'd work, how to avoid free riders.
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  • Posted by 9 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I see what you are saying. We did not have a "right" or natural dessert to be born. And if, through natural causes, we die, nobody has violated our "right" to exist.

    Still I do find value in the concept as a philosophical and political concept. It helps us define it so that we can defend it against those who would take it away. The adjective "natural" helps to highlight that our right to life is not given or taken by the Government (it is unalienable). It also helps to highlight our equal liberty: by nature, as we are born, no individual has rights of ownership over another; by nature we have equal rights.
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  • Posted by 9 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Right. That was just one general sense I think the term 'right' could be used. And I consider the words almost interchangeable; I could have said: "In one sense, a 'right' is something that one is morally entitled too." But I hate quibbling over semantics.

    The point is that a 'right' is something for which it is immoral to take it away. Call it what you want.

    I don't mind if the Government is involved with my right to life. As long as they are involved to protect it. In fact, I believe that is its essential task.
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  • Posted by dbhalling 9 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Nonsense. What a bunch of anti-conceptual nonsense. That is like saying gravity does not exists. What exists is things falling or things orbiting..

    Or it is like saying dogs do not exist, what exists is an individual dog. This sort of anti-conceptual reasoning is dishonest.
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  • Posted by 9 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    P2C7, page 559 in my edition. I remember reading it for the first time; it struck me as particularly well written. Very insightful.
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  • Posted by 9 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Well put. In that case, "making the world a better place" is a value to you, and worth pursuing. I happen to agree. Then as long as it is voluntary (not coerced, for example, through taxation), then I will join you in this virtue.
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  • Posted by PeterAsher 9 years, 10 months ago
    When I comment on this contemporary idiocy of claiming desired entitlements to be a Right, I state that “anything requiring the labor, services or property of another cannot be a Right.”
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  • Posted by woodlema 9 years, 10 months ago
    nsnelson, I would take issue with this statement.

    "A "right" is something that one morally deserves,"

    A right is not something I deserve, but something that as a human I am totally fully and completely entitled to.

    I use the word entitled not as a moocher, but as our founders wrote we have certain unalienable rights, that our Government has no business interfering with at all for any reason whatsoever.
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  • Posted by $ blarman 9 years, 10 months ago
    A right is inherent, internal, and inviolable. We have the right to choose our fates, choose what philosophy we will follow, and choose with whom we interact. We do not have the right to determine others' fates, force them to select a philosophy of our choice, or force them to interact with us. We have the right to the fruits of our labors. We do not have the right to the fruits of others' labors. We have the right to express our feelings, opinions, and philosophies inasmuch as that expression is voluntary and does not distort reality (lies, extortion, slander, etc.). We do not have the right to be listened to, however.

    Your rights stop where my rights begin.
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  • Posted by Temlakos 9 years, 10 months ago
    "Rights" are things others may not violate so long as people must live together. The corollary to this is: no person may start the use of force against another.

    The best definition of what rights are *not,* you will find in the "(Wo)Man in Bedroom/Roomette/Drawing Room/Seat X, Car No. Y" passage in AS.
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  • Posted by helidrvr 9 years, 10 months ago
    In nature, "rights" does not exist. In nature there is only "opportunity" - to thrive or perish. "Rights" is a philosophical and political concept which can therefore mean whatever the philosopher or politician imagines it to be.
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 9 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    "Be careful when you say we should provide basic needs for people."
    I agree we are only responsible for ourselves. I just think we shouldn't rule it out if it makes the world a better place for everyone, better in a way that we cannot exclude to those who don't want to pay for it. I agree this is very dangerous in that it can lead to the collectivist mindset. It's even worse when it makes some product/service become "rights", supposedly on part with the rights in the Bill of Rights.
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  • Posted by 9 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Good point about scarce things in particular. Any product or service is technically scarce. So is life, for that matter, but when we affirm our right to life we just mean nobody is allowed to take it away from us. But the Looters who affirm rights to property and services do not merely affirm that we should not take from others, they are saying we Producers are obligated to provide these products and services to the Other moochers.

    Be careful when you say we should provide basic needs for people. We should not buy into the collectivist mindset that says we are responsible for society, that we are our brother's keeper. If you want to help others (family, friends, even strangers/enemies) because it brings you pleasure or helps you obtain other personal values, then that is good. But just be careful not to make it a generalized moral "should." Whether it is you alone, or you joining together with other people to help people, it should be voluntary.
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  • Posted by 9 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Don't worry, the looter politicians will have the best interest of Society in mind when they decide to sacrifice your heart for the greater good.
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  • Posted by $ WilliamShipley 9 years, 10 months ago
    If you need a heart transplant and you have a right to one, who's heart do you have a right to?
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 9 years, 10 months ago
    It cheapens rights to say we have a right to scarce things. IMHO we should find a way to provide basic needs for people, but if we won't or can't, we still have true rights (not "rights" to housing, medicine, etc), which exist regardless of whether people respect them.
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