Truth about guns concealed

Posted by stargeezer 11 years, 3 months ago to Government
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LAS VEGAS REVIEW-JOURNAL

Those in favor of ever more expansive and restrictive gun control measures have emotion on their side. But with each tragic incident that takes place in yet another “gun-free zone,” it becomes more apparent that gun restrictions aren’t working as proponents would like.

The majority of the national media are all in on the bans and limitations already in place or being proposed, and that overwhelming narrative tends to crush anybody who points out the benefits of gun rights policies such as concealed carry. The mainstream media almost never report on research that challenges the approved narrative, which explains why a comprehensive study by Quinnipiac University economist Mark Gius has hardly seen the light of day since being released Nov. 26. As reported by http://Reason.com on Dec. 23, Mr. Gius’ study — titled “An examination of the effects of concealed weapons laws and assault weapons bans on state-level murder rates” — covered a period of 29 years and compiled data from all 50 states. It was published in the journal Applied Economics Letters.

“The purpose of the present study is to determine the effects of state-level assault weapons bans and concealed weapons laws on state-level murder rates. Using data for the period 1980 to 2009 and controlling for state and year fixed effects, the results of the present study suggest that states with restrictions on the carrying of concealed weapons had higher gun-related murder rates than other states.”
And what about so-called assault weapons?

“It was also found that assault weapons bans did not significantly affect murder rates at the state level,” Mr. Gius noted.

Nobody is advocating to let just anybody carry a concealed weapon. Those who obtain concealed-carry permits — those who undergo extensive training and background checks — tend to be responsible, law-abiding people. Criminals don’t have those traits, and no amount of lawmaking will instill those traits in them. As Mr. Gius summarized, “These results suggest that restrictive concealed weapons laws may cause an increase in gun-related murders at the state level.”

The study results also highlight the advantages of concealed carry. Knowing that any person at any time could be carrying, to defend themselves or others, can act as a deterrent to those with bad intentions. Rolling back overly restrictive gun laws or, better yet, introducing legislation that supports concealed-carry rights, would do far more to protect citizens than creating more gun-free zones or expanding restrictions on the rights of law-abiding gun owners.


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  • Posted by $ winterwind 11 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    thanks - I don't qualify to make it work that way; guess I'll just have to rely on the Natural law.
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  • Posted by xthinker88 11 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You will then be more than ready if you are selected as part of the "tribute" from your district. :)
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  • Posted by xthinker88 11 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Will a 100 round magazine even work well?? I remember we always loaded the 30 round magazines for our M16A2 (actual assault rifles) with 28 rounds because of spring issues.
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  • Posted by xthinker88 11 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Yes but let's face it. If it's black. And has a pistol grip. And no pretty wooden parts. It's REALLY scary and bad. /sarc
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  • Posted by j_IR1776wg 11 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Thanks for this link Stargeezer.. I wonder if the FBI further breaks down the 6220 handgun homicides into those committed by legal gun owners and those committed by gang members and other criminals? And by the way, 4.2 homicides per 100,000 people hardly warrants turning America into a disarmed prison camp.
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  • Posted by $ 11 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    BTW - There are zero accounts of ANY criminal ever using a Bazooka or Grenade Launcher in any crime. Zip, nada, none, zero. So give up the strawman JBW, I've got a box of matches.

    As for Yaron Brook, sorry but I wasn't aware that being a member of the Ayn Rand Inst. made one celestially inspired and infallible. If the account is accurate, he is just wrong.

    Next
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  • Posted by $ 11 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Exactly right LetsShrug. Every rifle, pistol, shotgun and knife is a derivative or a "weapon of war" right down to my Model 1862 Colt Musket - that WAS used in the civil war - should THAT be banned????

    All that said, on the day that ALL criminals actually are forced to pay for their crimes by enduring the full term of their legally mandated time in a prison work camp - where they WORK to repay their debt to society instead of buffing up and training for their next "parole", I might be somewhat convinced to give something up. But as long as THEY can own whatever THEY can BUY, I'll buy whatever I can AFORD.
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  • Posted by LetsShrug 11 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    If Yaron said that then he's a fool. And disappointing. (And ALL weapons are "assault" weapons...that's the whole point..can't defend yourself with a non assault weapon, or I'd be stocking up on bananas and pillows.)
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  • Posted by JBW 11 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Star geezer: Quoting you "any law abiding citizen should be able to buy whatever they can afford.", it is not the law abiding that I am concerned with, it is the criminals. Should they be able to buy an assualt weapon, or a bazooka, or other weapons of war?

    Yaron Brook, of the Ayn Rand Institute, in a speech was answering just that question, said that he would favor banning assualt weapons. (I can't find the speech but think it was in 2012,)

    My major concern is that for us as followers of Ayn Rand's philosophy to be able to clean up our government we'll have to have a majority of Congress, a seemingly impossible task. Our enemy is firmly in control. Just re-read the Amendments to our Constitutions. What are they but a series of laws, laws and more law?

    We've passed the point of no return. We are heading towards a socialist totalitarian state.

    Tell me where I'm wrong.

    Jim Wright


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  • Posted by jerryel 11 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Thanks for the grammar lesson,
    Squareone. I may be old enough to be your great grandfather but I'm never to old to stop learning. :)
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  • Posted by $ 11 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    My actual permits are from IA, Tx, FL, UT, and soon to arrive IL.. Between reciprocal agreements among several states, constitutional carry states that allow anyone to carry and allowances for retired federal officers, 37 currently recognize my credentials. Some other will also but since my retirement was not due to reaching mandatory retirement age or duty years, there are some states that are funny about it. Including my state.
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  • Posted by $ winterwind 11 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Oh, NO, it's better than that! Permits also tell the centralist State government where a gun is!
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  • Posted by Owlsrayne 11 years, 3 months ago
    I agree with all that has been stated here. I do have a CC license and own several weapons. But I have decided that if the Gov't. becomes draconian, I'm teaching myself Archery skills and after watching the Slingshot Channel on You Tube I'll take that up too.
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  • Posted by $ winterwind 11 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    stargeezer, that's why I love you.
    Now, how do we get together so you can tell me how you did it?
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  • Posted by $ 11 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Dead on target Jim. We aren't going to get to the bottom of this problem until we take off the PC sunglasses and acknowledge where the problem coming from. GFZ or as they are also called Criminals Firing Zones, only act as a magnet to these animals. A place where they can act out their "first shooter" video game fantasy without interference, by authorities for as long as possible.
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  • Posted by $ 11 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I'm just your average right wing extremist Christian gun nut who opposes any of "our dear leader's" initiatives.
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  • Posted by $ Tap2Golf 11 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    hey... there is a concept that has always amazed me. shouldn't the primary reason to send someone to prison be punishment? seems like I see a lot of very buff, well fed dudes in the occasional prison clips on news shows. it's no wonder these thugs go back in the joint for r n r. I'm not suggesting that losing one's freedom for a period of time wouldn't be horrible. makes me shiver.
    thanks for the post, I'm a 2nd amendment sister, armed in California, and I wouldn't hesitate defending myself. it is frustrating to not be able to get a cc permit here. you have to have some serious credentials to get as many as you have. .
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