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Uber's Code of Death

Posted by nsnelson 9 years, 10 months ago to News
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Uber now has a new clear no weapons policy (https://www.uber.com/legal/firearms-prohibition-policy), which applies to drivers and passengers, regardless of what local laws otherwise allow. Uber's policy recently changed. Why did it change? It changed because in April an Uber driver in was legally armed (in Chicago!), and shot a young man who was wrongfully shooting at several people. The driver probably saved several lives, maybe even his own. He will not be charged, since he was acting in defense of life, his own and others.

Defense of life? That is something Uber cannot stand. They want to feel safe and comfortable. I'm sure those poor people in Chicago would have been much more comfortable getting shot while they wait for law enforcement to arrive and protect them. Good luck, Uber drivers and riders, feeling safe in your portable "gun-free zones" ....until someone intent on doing violence to your life and liberty comes along. Just another sign of the inverted mentality we call the Code of Death.

Lyft and Sidecar have similar policies:

https://www.lyft.com/drive/help/article/1229185

https://www.side.cr/policies/rules-of-the-road/

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  • Posted by $ jdg 9 years, 10 months ago
    Thanks for letting us know about all three.
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  • Posted by davidmcnab 9 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    This study is interesting: http://siteresources.worldbank.org/DEC/R...

    The suggestion is that we may have to accept high levels of violent crime as an effect of individualist economics and a society which refrains from any sense of collectivist obligation.
    When Atlas shrugs, the world will always fall and crush a lot of unproductive people, and many of these will try to fight their way back to the teat of State through violence.

    Interestingly, the original motivation of the UK's welfare state was largely based on the principle that paying off the bottom-feeders ended up cheaper than coping with the costs of their crime if they weren't getting welfare. In that sense, welfare kinda made economic sense as an insurance policy for the productive sector.

    But, crime-fighting technology becomes ever more sophisticated. Bank robberies in the last 5 years have crashed to a fraction of what they used to be, for one. As such welfare will become increasingly obsolete.
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  • Posted by davidmcnab 9 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    In a way, that study supports my argument. The USA is one of the most violent of all developed nations, DESPITE having such high levels of gun ownership.
    However, in response to the recent church massacre, there are those who advocate for EVEN MORE guns.
    Apart from Brazil, Mexico and Russia, USA is a part of the developed world where you're most likely to cop a cap in your ass!
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  • Posted by davidmcnab 9 years, 10 months ago
    As mentioned on another thread, it continually astounds me how violent the USA is compared to other developed nations, and how guns are constantly advocated as the remedy, not recognised as a major cause.

    There are numerous other developed countries where private gun ownership is all but banned, but where murder rates are negligible compared to the US.
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  • Posted by jabuttrick 9 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Not true. They will disclaim liability and it will be enforceable so they are at no risk. Their real risk is in losing customers, like me, who will refuse to ride in a vehicle now made a target for anyone who wishes to rob it or its customers at gunpoint without fear of armed resistance. I'll take a cab please.
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  • Posted by RonJohnson 9 years, 10 months ago
    It seems to me this is a tricky position for them to take. By disarming their passengers, regardless of the law, they are taking the legal responsibility for the safety of the passengers.

    I work for a store that has a sign at the front of the store "Concealed Carry Welcome" because the liability falls on the store if the customers are disarmed due to a policy of the store.
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  • Posted by Esceptico 9 years, 10 months ago
    Disappointing. I wonder if Uber would change if enough people said it is bad policy.
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  • Posted by gerstj 9 years, 10 months ago
    Uber needs signs on the side of its cars: Gun Free Victim Zones. They also need to suffer the market penalty of lower ridership.
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  • Posted by waytodude 9 years, 10 months ago
    No way the can enforce it so why worry. Can't see what I carry anyway.
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  • Posted by $ blarman 9 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Actually, there is another explanation. Many urban cities are attempting to crack down on Uber by effectively banning them through city ordinances, etc., because they threaten city revenue through taxi licensing. Uber may just be trying to not acquire a second strike.

    I'm not defending their policy ( I think they've got it backwards), I just present an alternative theory as to why they felt such a policy decision necessary.
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 9 years, 10 months ago
    One good thing about concealed carry, no one sees the gun until a bad situation forces you to pull it.
    Odds are you could ride Uber armed your entire life with no one the wiser.
    I would not recommend riding with Uber unarmed, though. Should something bad happen, odds now also are no one will be with you to pull the gun that saves your life.
    Of course, all you Uber sheeple can draw cell phones, dial 911 and bleat your bye-bye baas while being shot.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 9 years, 10 months ago
    Each car should carry a sign saying, I'm Totally Unarmed, Come And Get Me."
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 10 months ago
    Remind me to strike chicago off my list of places to visit. Do they issue time out cards?
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  • Posted by SaltyDog 9 years, 10 months ago
    It's insane!

    Oh, wait...a San Francisco based company; that explains everything.

    Never mind.
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