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"Conflict of interest" as described by Ayn Rand does not mean that people don't have different goals or ideas on how to attain them. It has nothing to do with an intrinsicist notion of "perfect".
The principle is explained her essay The "Conflicts" of Men's Interests
in the Virtue of Selfishness. A-philosophical libertarian subjectivists can't help.
And even between two "perfect" objectivists or libertarians, there are conflicts of interest, because being a "perfect" [either] doesn't mean you see everything exactly the same way as another "perfect" [either].
The necessity of government at all in a rational society is a different question than the conflicts you are talking about: "no bombs, no drones, no massacres, no torture -- despite cultural differences among nations and individuals". That depends on having a culture of reason and individualism regardless of differences in details between societies and governments. Without that there can be no peace because the statists, collectivists and anarchists of various kinds will not allow it. Being reasonable and peaceful does not restrain those who are not. See Ayn Rand's essay The Roots of War in her book Capitalism the Unknown Ideal.
Having a rational culture at all is dependent on a generally understood philosophy of reason properly formulated. Without that people don't know enough to make the proper choices, let alone how to judge individual choices and actions. The Enlightenment with its emphasis on reason and individualism was a strong and necessary start but not enough. See Leonard Peikoff's books The Ominous Parallels and Objectivism: The Philosophy of Ayn Rand, i.e., Ayn Rand's philosophy in general. There are many basic philosophical questions that must be formulated and answered. There is much more to it than simply saying don't violate people's rights.
In any case, politicians do resemble the electorate - it is the people who are voting them in. The problem is to teach reality, analytical thinking, etc... This needs to happen in the schools so we have a generation or two of real thinkers/learners vs the results we are currently getting from the Kantian secularists that currently have control over the education system.
Rand observed that there is no conflict of interest between rational men. And that man has the power of reason. And, further, that consciousness has volition. Reason and volition are what can overcome "human nature", which is the built-in animal-level (pre-human) system of functioning. That applies to all humans, including those whom we have entrenched as millennia-long enemies. All humans have the same self-interest: to live, survive, prosper. The question becomes: how can we achieve that without mutual destruction; how can we reach that point of interaction where there is no conflict of interest, where thinking can transform or redirect feelings into rational action?
What you are talking about is nothing short of tyranny. It's certainly what the leftists want, but its establishment would take away rights - not protect them.
question -- world peace. . my answer is simple.
strength. . the world is peaceful around my house
because we are strong and show it. . we need not
be the world's policePerson if we lead by strength
and tolerance of everyone's uniqueness. . R E S P E C T
for others, with INtolerance for violence. . we should
stop people like Putin and Khameini (Iran) by refusing
to allow them into ANY monetary interactions while
they are acting up. . freeze them out. . grow our
economy with laissez-faire capitalism and use the
resultant strength to influence others against violence
and international encroachment. . IMHO. -- j
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We need to return to the era when individuals were better armed than the government. That's the only way anyone will ever escape tyranny. (And today that means moving outside any of the areas the big nations own or are fighting for, at least until we're big enough to defy them.)
Conflict among individuals is human nature and unavoidable. And no society bigger than a small tribe (say, 150 people) can expect to do without an active police force for any length of time.
Even if there were only 2 people left on Earth, one of them would, eventually, assume the role of the superior. Oh, sure, we would make a valiant attempt at maintaining "equality", but human nature would take over, in time. When desperate enough, your mind will tend to convince you that any action is justified.
Here's one thought. It's said you need someone who knows how to push the buttons? Whose buttons? Why? if it's that difficult just make a change. Why not? Money. They don't deserve propina. They aren't worth the mordida. If you had one fourth or one third sitting in the Capitol Building saying screw you I'm not voting until I've read this thing.
But? Too many afraid of the economic backlash of a government on the take.
As for Gucci Gulch? Don't give them an appointment.
The real problem is decent people don't become politicians. So all the dregs gravitate to their lowest common denominator.
So how do thee dub thyself?
have no respect for individual rights,and attack us,
or attack our important allies, such as Great Brit-
ain or Israel. We just have to be prepared to de-
feat them in war.--Now, in the case of not being at war with such a nation (as yet), perhaps we
could propagandize Objectivism, in the form of
letter bombs dropped there, written in their own
language. But don't expect any quick success.
It is a good skill to bring to the Gulch.
I believe Ayn Rand was is favor of the government having a strong military for this exact purpose - to deter initiation from outside sources, but internally for minimal Federal Government - other than to enforce and uphold our rational natural rights.
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