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Trump Presidential Fantasy

Posted by khalling 9 years, 10 months ago to Politics
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from the article:
"Deal making. Respect. These are what Trump proposes above all else, not just in this interview, but in other comments and interviews he has done in the past.

But deal making is a tactic and a skill; it’s not a principle of leadership. Deal making is a good skill to have, but the question remains: What deals will you be trying to make? What ideas will you be trying to put into practice when you propose a deal, and why?"

and:

"The beautiful and timeless thing about the United States of America is that it was founded on ideas. You can read those ideas for yourself in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution. Those ideas are timeless, and they respect the facts of human nature — our identity as thinking, sovereign, self-responsible and individual human beings who require liberty to survive and flourish."

well said Dr. Hurd


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  • Posted by mccannon01 9 years, 10 months ago
    Greetings khalling:

    OK, this is off topic so feel free to delete. I purchased "Trails of Injustice" in Kindle format to read on my train ride home from Florida to New York and truly enjoyed the read! Couldn't put it down! You did a wonderful job creating an exciting tale using current events. I can see as our government becomes more totalitarian with its plethora of armed alphabet soup agencies, so perfectly illustrated by the Fish and Wildlife raid (gave me a chilly cringe the same as when a certain guitar company was raided) Hank Rangar will have plenty to do in future encounters and, hopefully, there will be future encounters. At least until your books are banned. Thanks for writing it.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Hewlett Packard or the makers of HP Sauce? I hope it was Hewlett Packard I would hate to give up HP Sauce although boycotting Heinz hasn't caused much of a change.. Crossing my fingers.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    have to give you a point on that one. Trump may have the single and only positive anything to offer. but it's not enough except temporary relief. kind of sad when plop plop fizz fizz beats out the other choices.
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  • Posted by woodlema 9 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    For one thing Carly took a 100 year old company (HP) that was doing quite well, and ran it into the ground and almost destroyed it.

    I worked for HP at the time, and she was horrid. She treated HP assets like Obama treats Air Force One. I will NEVER support any candidate that has her as part of his/her run for office.

    I like Ben Carson, and if I needed brain surgery would let him operate, however, I am not convinced he is not a Democrat in Republicans clothing and not sure I would like him as Chief Executive. Being a Doctor, his "emotions" and sense of being a do-gooder would tend to overpower his common sense.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Who? It's not enough to say crash the bus, That just rewards the other one and funnily enough that's exactly how the votes of all independents and third party and write ins are awarded in the winner take all states.

    You stated the problem do you have the solution? Who?

    Otherwise you are just setting us up or trying to in a lame attempt to get your real candidate in office.

    Sorry I'm not buying suicide for any member of the Government Party left or right they are nothing more than the left and right wing of the left.

    All the borrowed rhetoric aside.

    Who?
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  • Posted by woodlema 9 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Mario Andretti, or a Marathon Runner.

    Mario Andretti = 200+mph
    Marathon Runner = about 6 mph.

    Hillary = Mario to our country and its destruction
    Jeb Bush = Marathon Runner.

    To me the sooner we run this bus off the cliff the sooner we can as Jefferson said, "Fertilize the tree of liberty with the blood of Patriots and Tyrants."

    The sooner the better, we need to rip it off like the proverbial band-aid.

    Unless we get a REAL leader in office who dismantles all these useless Government Agencies and restored the Constitution, the only real alternative is crash and burn then rise from the ashes.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Why? There's a difference? left wing socialist and left wing socialist. Statist corporatist and Corporatist statist. No need to go that far. Have some respect for yourself. They don't care which one wins or loses as long as the Government Party Wins and the country loses.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    It's part of the scripting. Thee are lead actors and supporting actors. I give you Tweedle Hee Haw and Tweedle Dumbo in the Great American Comedy Series production of Playing With Fools!
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  • Posted by Non_mooching_artist 9 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I was reading commentary made by a slew of people running at present. The comments were from the NRA convention in Nashville. Trump made some incomprehensible comment about the Second Amendment, which left me wondering what the heck he was talking about! Here it is... Shake your head, and have a shot, of tequila, at the ready. You'll need it...
    "It's a great honor to be here. I love the NRA. I love the Second Amendment. And it's really something, having a room like this, and having so many great Americans, great taxpayers, wonderful people and hard workers." OMG. Grammar police!!!
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  • Posted by woodlema 9 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I don't care how the Media portrays anyone since they are as biased as the day is long. In fact when the more they bash someone the more I take them seriously as someone I would like.

    Ad far as not having the temperment. I am of the opinion that the American people are about ready for a REAL straight talking no nonsense, call it like it is with no apologies person to lead this country. I think "We the People" are sick of the two faced double talking, double dealing, yo-y0's who like to think of themselves as leaders, but have never really built anything.

    But if it came down to Jeb Bush or Hillary I will just chuck it all and vote Democrat down the line and say screw it lets drive it all off the cliff and pick up the pieces when it crashes.
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  • Posted by ObjectiveAnalyst 9 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Hello WilliamShipley,
    More often than not I just wish they would stop doing stuff for us, It usually ends up feeling like they are doing stuff to us. :(
    Regards,
    O.A.
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  • Posted by ObjectiveAnalyst 9 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Hello woodlema,
    If Trump would surround himself with excellent problem solving people and just be a big picture guy he could certainly do better than what we have had.
    Sometimes a good leader is one that does not micromanage but only steers the direction. So your argument and support is not without merit. Unfortunately I believe he hasn't the temperament to be electable. He has already alienated a good number of the electorate and the media will of course portray him as a clown and Circus act.
    If it were possible for him to be elected it sure would be fun to see him cut the politicos down to size. His support in the polls so far is not promising and probably for those reasons.
    Respectfully,
    O.A.
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  • Posted by ObjectiveAnalyst 9 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Hello circuitguy,
    Really? Let’s look at this a bit shall we? Today’s Democrats believe in democracy. The root of their party name is what? Democracy is mob rule. A majority votes to grant the government more power. That is statism. Hillary, the democratic candidates and democrats generally are campaigning for more federal gun control, federal taxation, government controls on business ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0BdKkEK... ), income redistribution, education mandates, federal mandates of lenient immigration policies and more environmental regulation, etc. all from up on high Mt. Olympus. As you suggested they hear you have a problem and automatically think they can solve it at a governmental level. That is the epitome of statism and with every executive order from our POTUS you see prime examples. Some problems are best left to the individual if liberty is to be preserved. Federalism was meant to be a federation of states. Each, would, with their sovereign powers, handle the individual state problems and those not enumerated in the state constitutions would be relegated to the communities and to the individuals. They were all off limits to the Federal government since they were not enumerated in the Constitution. The Republic was not founded as a democracy just for that reason. The Constitution never mentions the word democracy, but guarantees us a constitutionally limited Republican form of government. A republican form of government that respects the constitution is one that is anti-statist to the degree that is practicable. That is the reason the framers created and enumerated the limited powers of the federal government with the constitution and the bill of rights. That is republicanism… A limited government with representatives as apposed to simple democracy and mob rule. The very essence of this institution was to limit expanding central control… the antithesis of statism. It is true that some republicans do not adhere strictly to these principles,thus the term RINO, but the magnitude/contrast is apparent. The democrats never speak of the Republic and continuously tell us we have a democracy. This is a purposeful ruse knowing true democracy always devolves into more statism. We do hear many republicans talking about the problems of common core, the over-reach of the EPA, the abuse of the IRS, central control of healthcare, FDA mandates on our food supply (sugar, salt intake, restaurant restrictions, food labeling, etc) more attacks on the second amendment. What do you think these things are if not examples of statism? Neither party is truly respecting our constitution, but one party is unabashedly promoting a more statist philosophy. Bernie Sanders is drawing significant crowds of democrats. He is a self proclaimed socialist. For Galt’s sake you can’t get more blatantly statist than that! Democracy and Socialism are inherently more statist philosophies of governance.
    Respectfully,
    O.A.
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  • Posted by Zenphamy 9 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Exactly. There used to be an old tale about an old man in Texas that was asked about this secret to a long life. He answered that it was a pint of whiskey every day and two when Congress was in session.
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  • Posted by Maritimus 9 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Too many Americans are NOT "... thinking, sovereign, self-responsible and individual human beings who require liberty to survive and flourish."
    I would expect Jefferson to have hard time with omnipresent dishonesty in the media discourse. I think he probably would not receive a majority of the votes.
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  • Posted by samrigel 9 years, 10 months ago
    We can say what we wish about Trump or any of the candidates. But he is not a politician and could not enrich himself enough from the position of President. I like what he has to say because it comes from his business side. I also like Carly Fiorina and Ben Carson. I have had enough of the career politician. Our Gov't was never meant to be a "total vocation". It was meant for people to do the job they were elected to do and then go home to their real work. What Trump, Fiorina and Carson bring to the table is a different point of view, oh some humor as well, and if that shakes up the gaggle of candidates then it is all worth the while!
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  • Posted by Herb7734 9 years, 10 months ago
    We have not had a lot of entertainment from presidents lately. Obama can be amusing, but his actions as president trump the humor (pun intended). Dubja had his moments in a deprecating sort of way, but Clinton made us laugh even as he was reaming us. When all was said and done, he turned out to be as amusing as a colonoscopy. If Trump were elected and just orated and nothing else, at least we'd get some entertainment out of it, not to mention the comedians of late night TV and SNL.
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  • Posted by woodlema 9 years, 10 months ago
    I disagree with a lot of "Dr." Hurd, and I place the parentheses there not in a complimentary way either. What successful business has Hurd run whereby he employed thousands of people and spurred large segments of entire economies? Other than being a psychotherapist, and being employed by a radio show, and being a “Talking Head” WHAT HAS HE BUILT?
    Donald Trump is also very well educated not only via “Brick and Mortar” but also through vase experience in business both in success and in failure. Like Trump of not, he is VERY successful in business, and has raised two exceptionally successful children.
    I think Trump should have used the phrase. “Politicians are ALL talk and NO PRODUCTIVE action when it comes to benefitting the American People.” This is what I believe he meant, although he did not say it.
    Leadership and “The Deal” is one in the same to the TRUE leader. Donald Trump has many outstanding quotes that are based on Leadership and a Personal Philosophy and Ideology. One such quote is, “Sometimes your best investments are the ones you don’t make.”
    Trump says you ALWAYS negotiate from a position of power (strength) not weakness.
    Some of the items in his books, are that while he may not like someone at all, and they may not like him, he has forged some of his best business deals with people who do not like each other. THAT is leadership.
    Leadership is being able to negotiate with people and convince them into a course of action they may not be initially amicable to do. I personally do this all the time as Project Manager in matrixed organizations. THAT requires Leadership, and Referent Power. Something NONE of the current politicians I see have. Ronald Regan had it.
    Donald Trump said he does not need donors. This is true. He does not HAVE to bend over and kiss some ass to get a donation check he is worth close to 9 billion dollars.
    Warren Bennis said “Leadership is the capacity to translate vision into reality.” Based on that Trump is the ONLY person who is a leader in the GOP field.
    John Maxwell said “Leadership is influence – nothing more, nothing less.” Politicians are not the ones with the influence their donors are. Politicians are the puppets being manipulated by the REAL leaders.
    Obama is not a leader he is a bully, and tyrant. Just because you can force someone to do something does not make one a leader. Leading required the ability to use the forms of power, those being listed as:
    1)Expert Power
    2)Reward Power
    3)Personal or Referent Power
    4)Information Power
    These forms of power must be exercised within Maslow’s Hierarchy of needs to be a truly successful leader.
    Like Trump of not, he leads from the front. Leading from behind is called RETREAT.

    He has a vision and translates that into reality. He negotiates usually to the benefit of both parties not generally leaving himself on the short end.
    The more I listen to Trump the more I like him for President. I can see Donald Trump telling Lois Lerner, Hillary Clinton, Obama, and other unscrupulous unethical wonks, YOU’RE FIRED!!!
    THAT is what we need in the Whitehouse in my opinion.
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 9 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I recall Rush Limbaugh saying he was glad the government was shut down (the last time it briefly was).
    His reasoning was that nothing could be done to us in the meantime.
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  • Posted by ProfChuck 9 years, 10 months ago
    Trump is a mountebank and his ego is amusing. However, digging through his rhetoric it is hard to find strategy because all he talks about is tactics. If you look at his mixed history it is very difficult to discern his underlying belief structure. Would I vote for Trump against any of the potential Democrat contestants? Yes, but he would be far from my first choice.
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