Flags and the Thought Police

Posted by robgambrill 9 years, 10 months ago to Culture
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I never really cared for the confederate flag, but I heard today that E-bay had banned their sale.

Just to see what would happen, I decided to try and order one off of Amazon, just as they decided not to allow the sale of rebel flags as well.

As they were taking down the offerings, I noticed that other historical flags were being pulled as well. The picture is from my "Wish List". Not sure the web masters knew which flags to pull off the site.

I eventually managed to order both a "Don't Tread on Me" flag and a small rebel flag as a souvenir of the day the thought police decided I shouldn't be able to buy a flag because of somebodies idea of what it stands for.

I could be mistaken, but I think for a lot of people, the confederate flag has to more to do with a wish to be free of the federal government than history or race issues.


The seller shipped the rebel flag right away, guess he didn't want to get stuck with the inventory.

. I guess I am not comfortable with banning the sale of flags, even unpopular ones.

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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Prioir to income tax it was one of the Federal Government's main authorized ways of filling their budget needs. Their needs not ours.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    3/5ths was a northern invention and requirement to keep the amount of Representatives down The North actually wanted zero percent and the South one hundred percent. urban myth. The last sentence was deadly accurate.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    As good a place as any to add this. This thread and one or two others one saying read the Constitution of the Confederate States brought me to re-read that document.

    Except for the slavery issue portions it looked like a much improved USA Constitution but then so did the cleaned up version Panama adopted. As our instructor said they are only as good as the people who interpret and operate from them.

    That led me back to some research in linked area (not linked on the net but within the boundaries of the issue at hand). Katy bar the door! What did I find? The answer to one of tow troubling questions. Namely why African Americans would support Democrats which is still the pro-slavery party and has been all along? Not that the Republicans are pure as driven snow especially now they are in bed with Demos but in comparison?

    So a bit of historical fact checking and I came up with reasons why the Blue Dog Democrats and the RINO - less Republicans especially those currently in Congress should bolt the Government Party scarf up the bulk of the independents and splinter party and offer a meaningful platform ....they won't but it's a dream

    So....New Post under History seems like a good choice since failure to learn and understand same is the sure route to a lemming finish.

    Watch for it?

    PS I didn't change the Constitution that was another project in school. Rewrite it and defend your position.Big time extra credit.
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  • Posted by Esceptico 9 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Cognitive dissonance explains both your mindset and the uselessness of further discussion. If you are not familiar with this concept, then I respectfully and seriously recommend you do some independent study regarding thinking processes. David Kelley's book "the Art of Reasoning" would be an excellent start.
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  • Posted by xthinker88 9 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    So the confederate battle flag is not a symbol of an army that was te enemy of the U.S.?

    You really should stick with facts rather than your opinion of what you feel might be some sort of military mindset. Especially when it's irrelevant to the item in question.
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  • Posted by Lysander 9 years, 10 months ago
    But, I can still buy Isis stuff? I guess Muslim terrorists are less evil than dead confederate soldiers
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 9 years, 10 months ago
    True enough robgambrill, the banning of anything that reminds us of history, good, bad or ugly should not happen. It's not the flag that's bad no more than it's the gun that's bad. But to the issue at hand, I have to say, yes they were rebels and didn't like being told what to do, but they were doing wrong to human beings which was an issue we had long set aside in order to keep the country together. Had we split up the country...the south would have likely surcomed to communism and continued it's practice of slavery in one form or another.[that's where democrats came from...and you thought it was the cabbage patch...LMAO] It was that mindless set, that narcissistic hubris that created the idea of different races and whom should be dominant over them. That is not what our forefathers stood for or intended for America...that's what we were running away from.
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  • Posted by Technocracy 9 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Lets agree to disagree on this one Blarman. People have been arguing about this one since before it ended.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Most definitely suppression of historical information in an incremental form. Mmmm now who would profit from that?
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  • Posted by Herb7734 9 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Yes.
    The pirates arrive in Tampa Bay in a faux galleon around noon. They threaten the mayor with dire consequences if he doesn't capitulate, which he gladly does, giving the Top Pirate the key to the city. It is a good deal of fun nonsense.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    It was critical to getting the northern vote and the 3/5 rule was their deal to support it. they didn't want the south''s numbers pumped up meaning more Representatives. That part was strictly a Northern part of the equation. The south wanted a full 100% count.

    As you are about to find out the North's hands were far from clean and the Democrats least of all. Starting with the suggestion to re-read the Constitution of the Confederate States in another thread It reminded me of something So the new post with references has to do with that exact situation. Ever wonder which States were the last states to own slaves of the original 13? Or who supported the Jim Crow laws and favored slavery in the new states? Or who did not support ERA?

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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    It's on the list in the gold over black and the green over beige version and however the RWB I think it should be blue and white over red to honor all the blood it's shed since 1933. if iyour of a mind use the private line
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  • Posted by johnpe1 9 years, 10 months ago
    isn't free speech kin to free flag? . maybe we should
    list it under "false flag" and see if the Battle Flag of
    the Army of Northern Virginia might survive there??? -- j

    p.s. this flag inquisition smells like "hate crime" logic --
    you're damned for both the crime and the thought. . to me,
    it's double jeopardy.
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  • Posted by Esceptico 9 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I see a basic example of "Us verus Them" that seems to dominate the military mindset. Pity.
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  • Posted by freedomforall 9 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    No, blarman, the Whigs had been pushing for another tariff under henry Clay for years after the TofAbom, and under Lincoln they became the GOP, but that's not the point. The point is that Lincoln and the GOP knew what had happened when it was tried before and that the situation had not changed. They knew it would cause the same problem (as stealing often does.) Lincoln ran on the tariff issue. He was a follower of Henry Clay and the Whigs. He created the problem and he knew in advance it would happen. Lincoln was at fault. He even refused to meet with southern congressmen who wanted to avoid war. Lincoln wanted war, and slavery had nothing to do with it. Unfair taxation was the primary cause and Lincoln knew in advance what would happen.
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  • Posted by VetteGuy 9 years, 10 months ago
    I wonder how long before Ole Miss has to change their mascot. Rebel flags are popular around there, as you can imagine.
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  • Posted by Owlsrayne 9 years, 10 months ago
    I don't understand how vocal minority groups in this country manipulate the local and federal govt to get what they want while the majority remain silent. It is amazing how illiterate people have become. They must not teach about the Civil War in either in grade school or high school. This makes me very angry when the these minorites don't understand the American History. I think most school administrators are communists. They're creating a false history to teach young children. All this brainwashing will ruin our country.
    That's right stick your head in the sand and pretend that this battle flag won't becoming out anytime soon. When the 2nd Civil War erupts/Secession that flag will probably carried by every militia of those states.
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  • Posted by RobertFl 9 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    It's irrelevant. It's a distraction.
    A rationale argument can't be made to someone with the fingers in there ears. No one wants to hear an hour explanation on how the civil war was not solely about slavery.
    Let's not give Hillary something to distract the low info voters with to avoid talking about her accomplishments.
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