Yes, ever read "The Overton Window" by Glenn Beck? It will blow your mind on how "directing the narrative" has been taking place.

What alternate punishments do we have?
Part of the reason we have such a large incarceration is the long prison sentences that politicians like.
Other places with lower incarceration amounts almost certainly give out shorter sentences, and have alternative punishments.

My punishment for drunk drivers could be expanded to more serious crimes. The convict would be given a choice of a period of weekends in the stocks, or if the crime was severe enough, a public whipping (or both),OR he could choose a long jail sentence.

Be prepared to be held to the same standard for providing sources.

It appears you're claiming to be offended by the FORM of my statements. Well, then, how would you say that women are responsible for the general collapse and destruction of our society, our economic system, the notion of morals and this Country (which was built by MEN)?

There has been a long and ever-expanding history of not holding women accountable for their actions. Part of it's biology. Men are biologically programmed to protect women. Society reinforces this. And for most of history, women weren't' a problem… until they got the vote.

Today they are THE major problem with America. In fact, today's women may be the biggest threat to freedom and functional society in history.

When a bright light is brought to bear, it shocks some and of course, the first thing women tend to do is dismiss the facts with the claim that the commentator is "anti-woman". Facts mean less to women than feelings - and women don't want to "feel" responsible for destroying America - so of course they "aren't responsible".

Just for the record, it's not my fault that women have completely screwed up our society and our Country and are pushing agendas around the world that will destabilize and perhaps even destroy other societies as well. If you wish to fault me for publishing the data - feel free. But the destruction belongs to the women.

Be careful with that (and other) statistics. Notice that it's not merely rapists, it's rapists with "anger problems." Who determined that one rapist had anger problems and another didn't?

He'd have to have a following first.

That tax issue came up around 1820.

The Governor of South Carolina. Sure, no problem holding him responsible.

Stefan Molyneux isn't he a cult leader?

Those 6 year old sold right and left in North Carolina probably had something to do with his ultimate goal. Go look at the property transfers in Edgecombe County, North Carolina. Do you think some people might be suspicious about soemeone needing a six year old slave?

The entire war is proof Lincoln wanted to enslave the South.

The Federal government was accorded NO POWERS with regard to secession. Under the 9th and 10th Amendments, the power to secede rested with the States or the People, respectively. The South voted to secede - which was entirely Constitutional. Lincoln then waged war on the South to assert control over the Southern states. Is that not clear enough for you?

No, dumb-dumb. The Federal Government has ENUMERATED powers. Not on the list? Not a federal power.

Guess what? Preventing secession is NOT on the list.

You got part of the tax issue correct. It was to keep the South in thrall to the North that the war was fought. Nice to see you agree with the fact that the reason Lincoln killed 750,000 people was to force the South to buy from the North.

The equivalent today would probably be something like bombing Ford owners to force them to buy GM… (because, you see, GM took the Federal bailouts and Ford didn't, so bombing people who buy Fords helps the government's "preferred" business.) Now that Michelle Obama has teamed up with Subway to spend government money promoting that business, MacDonalds, Burger King, KFC and Wendy's should expect commando raids… because it's in rlevewllen's "constitution".

At this point I invoke the maxim, "Never argue with a fool".

If you were adding something to the discussion, I'd continue. You aren't. I won't.

A pile of renegades decided secession first. There is nothing about the Ninth and 10th amendment that leaves the right to secede. Congress does not have just specified powers, it has implied powers. How abused were they before the first. How abused were they? They were taxed to prevent excessive imports and keep the north in business. That is what lead to the first talk of seceding.

>Lincoln's only interest in slavery was as it affected his ability to enslave the South ("Save the Union").

Lincoln spoke against slavery for more than 20 years before he became president.

>Lincolns words
Lincoln was trying to keep the country together.
>What do you present as evidence that Lincoln wanted to enslave the South?

Do you call it truth because you find it in some nether world?

Truth, grasshopper.

I like truth.

Too lazy to google it?

Okay, here's a link to click.
https://www.google.com/search?client=saf...

And here's one that provides the cite.
http://thefatherlessgeneration.wordpress...

Just imagine what kind of world it would be if men were driven from their traditional roles as parents and women ran things. Ooops! We're there! Women have voted to replace men with government programs, and here are the results (from the second link - so you don't have to go to the great effort of clicking):

63% of youth suicides are from fatherless homes (US Dept. Of Health/Census) – 5 times the average.
90% of all homeless and runaway children are from fatherless homes – 32 times the average.
85% of all children who show behavior disorders come from fatherless homes – 20 times the average. (Center for Disease Control)
80% of rapists with anger problems come from fatherless homes –14 times the average. (Justice & Behavior, Vol 14, p. 403-26)
71% of all high school dropouts come from fatherless homes – 9 times the average. (National Principals Association Report)
Father Factor in Education - Fatherless children are twice as likely to drop out of school.

Children with Fathers who are involved are 40% less likely to repeat a grade in school.
Children with Fathers who are involved are 70% less likely to drop out of school.
Children with Fathers who are involved are more likely to get A’s in school.
Children with Fathers who are involved are more likely to enjoy school and engage in extracurricular activities.
75% of all adolescent patients in chemical abuse centers come from fatherless homes – 10 times the average.
Father Factor in Drug and Alcohol Abuse - Researchers at Columbia University found that children living in two-parent household with a poor relationship with their father are 68% more likely to smoke, drink, or use drugs compared to all teens in two-parent households. Teens in single mother households are at a 30% higher risk than those in two-parent households.

70% of youths in state-operated institutions come from fatherless homes – 9 times the average. (U.S. Dept. of Justice, Sept. 1988)
85% of all youths in prison come from fatherless homes – 20 times the average. (Fulton Co. Georgia, Texas Dept. of Correction)

I am trying to figure out what you have been indoctrinated for. Do you like slavery?

Yep. The armies just decided to go out and start killing all by themselves. /sarcasm

Testament to your indoctrination is the fact that you are unwilling to hold responsible the individual most responsible for the largest mass murder of Americans in history. Abraham "Butcher" Lincoln.

Funny, I thought that the opposing armies did the killing. At least that's what I was taught in military history at the school that trained the top generals on both sides of the war. Seems they might know something about it.