How men are raped while women go free.

Posted by BambiB 11 years, 3 months ago to Government
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There is SO MUCH wrong with this case. It highlights how the law treats men differently from women, fining, punishing, imprisoning the former for acts that are considered the "right" of any woman.

This guy tricked his girlfriend into taking an abortifacient inducing the abortion of his 7-week-old fetus.
Let's compare.
If a woman tricks a man into thinking she can't get pregnant (on the pill, using an IUD, etc.), there's no penalty. She can force him to become a father against his will and bill him for child support for 18 years.
If a woman decides to murder the man's baby (have an abortion) there is nothing the man can do about it. The woman has sole control.
But is a man tricks a woman into taking an abortifacient resulting in the abortion of his fetus, he can be sentenced to life in prison!??
Why is it that women get all the options? Why is it that men wind up being forced to be parents against their will? Why is it that only women lie about birth control and get away with it? Why is it that only women can kill their fetuses?

The Federal Law in this case should be challenged on two levels. First, someone please show me where in the Constitution the Founders granted the Congress authority over abortions (or even murder, for that matter)?

Second, how is it that a woman can abort her fetus without consequence, while a man who aborts his fetus can be sentenced to life in prison?


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  • Posted by dbhalling 11 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    No it clearly is not. It is not new or non-obvious. It would be like suggesting that water is new and non-obvious. What is novel and non-obvious is a genetically modified DNA that provides a useful trait, which is what Monsanto has patented.
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  • Posted by khalling 11 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    they patent new DNAs that don't exist in nature. they do NOT patent existing DNA. no different than patenting the steam engine.
    that last statement is incorrect and propaganda. In all of those cases it was proven the farmers purposely violated contracts with Monsanto. all of them want the the benefit of the technology-but they do not want to keep paying for it. Don't use the seeds. Easy, breezy, beautiful!
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  • Posted by 11 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I disagree.
    One's DNA is statutory, new, useful and non-obvious.

    Monsanto patents DNA all the time. In fact, they sue others who are the victims of wind-blown DNA.
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  • Posted by khalling 11 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    um, that's not how patent law works. here's what someone could do. they can patent a purified form of something that does not exist in pure form in nature.
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  • Posted by 11 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I'm waiting for the case where the man patents his own DNA (which he can legally do) then sues the woman for patent infringement when he makes unauthorized use of his patented DNA. Like, "Yeah, babe. You can bill me for child support. Take it out of the $200 million you owe me for patent infringement."
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  • Posted by $ Mimi 11 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I wouldn’t break into your house, shoot you, then expect to win my case using a castle defense; would I?

    Cry foul, but women carry the babies within their own bodies, so women will always have a ‘home’ advantage. I don’t think whether or not the action ended the pregnancy should have factored into the sentence compared to the rights of the individual (the woman) not to be psychically molested by poisoning. It was an assault upon her person, pregnancy aside.
    He should have gotten probation.
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  • Posted by Robbie53024 11 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Don't forget put the kids to bed, done the grocery shopping, and, oh, yes, put on something sexy to "get me in the mood!"
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  • Posted by Robbie53024 11 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I guess I'm more familiar with female helicopter pilots (army), who were very good - at least in training exercises when I was in the military.
    As for JL, yes, she was way over praised for the circumstances. At best, she should have received a purple heart and nothing more. A situation of PC run amok. Which is a shame for those females that really do exhibit bravery in combat conditions.
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  • Posted by 11 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Have you cooked dinner, done the laundry, cleaned the house and taken out the trash yet?
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  • Posted by 11 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Robbie: Women are probably better pilots in routine, monotonous, never-changing (*yawn*) milk-run type flying.

    Put one thing out of place, raise the tension a jot, put them in an unusual attitude and they fall far, far, far behind. Women have a greater tolerance for routine. Men have superior spatial reasoning skills. The top combat pilots will always be men (until and unless evolution sees fit to change things). Here's an exampe of what I mean: The very first Navy female carrier-rated pilot, Karen Hultgreen, nearly killed her GIB on her first carrier landing when she ignored the FDO's wave-off order, over-controlled her F-14, flamed out an engine and crashed into the drink. Fortunately, she was killed, and so not able to endanger other lives. There are indications that the SECOND female carrier-rated Navy pilot wasn't much better... but so far as I know, she hasn't killed anyone yet.

    As for combat roles - you are of course correct. But it goes further than women not being capable. One of the morale problems in the military stems from the high praise women get for sub-par performance.

    Anyone remember how the left-wing press and the liberal politicos desperate to show female success in the military latched onto the story of Jessica Lynch? Nothing against her personally (except for the fact that she apparently did a crappy job of maintaining her M-16... based on her statements that it "jammed" without her ever firing a shot), but what male in the history of the world would have received an award for valor for:

    1) Being involved in a car wreck,
    2) Being captured, and,
    3) Being rescued?

    Because that's all she did. She might as well have been a bag of cabbages for all the "valor" she displayed.

    Worse, the driver (also a female) received the same decoration for panicking and crashing her Hum-vee into the back of a truck, killing everyone in the vehicle except Lynch, who was knocked unconscious in the crash. (But the driver was a "native-american" so they renamed Squaw Mountain after her. As what? A testament to her incompetence??)

    The initial accounts of a "blonde woman" attributed to Lynch, heroically engaging Iraq troops and fighting to the death were quietly dropped when it because clear that the person heroically engaging the enemy at long odds was Sgt Donald Walters http://www.rense.com/general39/private.h... who had been inadvertently abandoned 15 miles behind enemy lines.
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  • Posted by Robbie53024 11 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    There are jobs in the military where women are acceptable. Flying for example - women are often better pilots than men. Also many logistics positions are acceptable for women.
    The problem occurs when the PC police try to gender neutralize combat roles for women. The reality is that not only are women not suited physically, but also psychologically. War is terrible, many men cannot handle the effects. Most women cannot.
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  • Posted by 11 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    If you want to see a whole boatload of examples of how society is pushing the illusion that women are equal to men, get a copy of "Weak Link" and read up on how the fantasy of "women in the military" has played out.

    For formal treatment of the disparity in mental operation between the genders (just one example, but a convincing one) see the CEEB study of gender differences in results for the Physics Level II Achievement Exam. CEEB was desperately trying to gender norm the test - to no avail.

    For a broader treatment, see http://ec2-184-73-88-202.compute-1.amazo...
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  • Posted by 11 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Sorry, but men and women are not only physiologically different, they are mentally different as well. The College Entrance Examination Board folks fought that reality in trying to gender-norm the Physics Level II Achievement Test. They discovered that they could either gender norm the test OR test knowledge of physics. Not both. There's a reason that there are relatively few women in the fields of physics and engineering - women's brains do not work that way. Abstract reasoning has always been a female foible.

    As for the Hooter's Guys lawsuit - years back some guys went in to interview to become "Hooters Guys". When they were turned down, they filed a gender-discrimination suit… or maybe just threatened to?? Anyway, it was settled out of court, but Hooters put out a T-Shirt referring to the government-related BS that even gave the guys a leg to stand on. Of course, it's the same leg that women stand on when they insist on jobs for which they are ill-suited… like any woman in any branch of the military.
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  • Posted by ShruginArgentina 11 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Reading your posts in this topic has been inspirational to me (to incorpoate this subject into the screenplay I am writing).

    Thank you!
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  • Posted by khalling 11 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    if logic were involved, we'd agree that men and women were physiologically different not mentally. I agree there is a govt agenda.
    what's the "hooter's guy" lawsuits?
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  • Posted by 11 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Unfortunately, it's not a judge with an agenda. It's a Federal Government with an agenda. The same agenda that says women who get pregnant (because they want to) but don't want to put up with the bother of a husband can instead use taxpayer monies to support her and her bastard, and use federal forces to go after the sperm donor.

    This is a FEMALE agenda.

    You're quite right with regard to the logic not following… but if logic were involved, we would have no laws that prefer one gender over another - OR - we would all agree that one gender is inferior and "needs assistance" in the same way that a physically or mentally handicapped individual might.

    So no more "affirmative action". No more gender-preferences in hiring. No more preferences in determining custody. No more alimony. And by the way, employers would be free to hire/fire based on ability, without worrying about any sex-discrimination lawsuits. So no more Federal Government forcing battery-recyclers to hire women (and no more "Hooters Guys" lawsuits).
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  • Posted by 11 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Okay, now we're getting somewhere. If it's HER body, HER embryo, then HE should have to pay ZERO if she decides to have the baby. NO MORE CHILD SUPPORT. Period.
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  • Posted by Rozar 11 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Because it is the woman's embryo. It's her body. The male shouldn't be charged with murder, but assault definitely. Preferably substantial assault charges. The male can be charged for doing something to another person's body without their concent. He should also be charged if he physically prevented her from having an abortion if she wanted one. As in, locked her up and forced her to give birth.
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  • Posted by Rozar 11 years, 3 months ago
    The constitution is supposed to protect the right to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness, which covers the murder part. Other than that the only solution I see is government removing itself from voluntary contracts, like sex. If the government couldn't force men to pay child support women would be a lot more careful in tricking the male, knowing that they would be at his discretion whether he would stay around or not. I also doubt the male would trick the women into a contraceptive if he wasn't faced with slavery for the next 18 years. Even if for some reason he did, the free market would be able to right the wrong via social media and ex communication.
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  • Posted by khalling 11 years, 3 months ago
    This judge has an agenda. The logic does not follow. The most I could see charging the individual with is assault and battery. The big problem here is if the woman can make the decision unilaterally and the man is tied to the decision by the state, the man should be able to make the decision too. rozar's point is well taken about the responsibility role and the contractual points as well.
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