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The Conflict Within - The Left's Version of Creationism

Posted by Zenphamy 9 years, 9 months ago to Philosophy
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I've mentioned in other comments, a recent book I've been reading and studying by a favorite Astro-physicist, Hilton Ratcliffe, titled "Stephen Hawking Smoked My Socks." The primary emphasis of this book, that follows much of Ratcliffe's previous work has to do with the effect of belief systems on scientific inquiry and mathematical formulation of and nonsensical corrections/additions to theories to incorporate such beliefs into current scientific research and even experimental findings. In these writings, Ratcliffe is really talking about socially derived belief's-faith's impact on science today, as well as the fact that all humans grow up with sets of belief systems that those in science, in particular though not exclusively, must first recognize such belief systems' impacts and their influences on their and their predecessors' work, but then take the extremely difficult path of ensuring that such does not interfere with their actual and factual experimental and measured findings and work.

Now, I've recently encountered another source in the referenced blog (Gene Expression), that goes even further than Ratcliffe in describing this phenomena of human existence in scientific work by delving into the scientific squabble that's been going on since the 70's with those, sometimes termed neo-darwinists', that searched for and believe they've found support in their studies and work to support what they've termed sociobiology. A term developed to explain many studied characteristics of today's individual humans actions and responses whose predilections in society are derived from evolutionary genetic traits at neural and molecular levels combined with environmentally influenced expressions. The referenced article, though not easily read, describes those opposing sociobiology as driven by their own early Marxist and Stalinist indoctrination that wish to believe that humans are so malleable as to be controlled through progressive/socialist government and institutional policies and imposed moralities.

The article goes on to compare the opposing leftist, progressive influence to the rightist, conservative arguments on creationism:
"Rose, like his fellow travellers Gould and Lewontin, doesn't want his worldview, which has been extensively shaped by Marxist philosophy, to come crumbling down. The solutions proffered are state centered, gene-phobic, and premised on the extreme malleability of human nature. Further, like Diamond, he knows what sells and what his fans want to read and hear. He panders to the ideology, whether he truly believes in the Ghost in the Machine or not, and despite the warnings offered by Ehrenreich, McIntosh and Konner, the faithful of the Left lap up the ideologically reassuring pablum and turn a blind eye to the reality unfolding before them. The core of this faith is that human nature is malleable beyond limits that now exist, and like I've written before, along with my co-bloggers, it is that faith in the face of reason that binds one faction of the Left to their faith-based counterparts on the Right and like on the Right, the Left has its charlatans and hypocrites delivering these sermons." (emphasis added)

For Objectivist, these ideas and concepts will make a lot of sense. For those dedicated to the validity of their beliefs-faith, as the author says, in the face of reason, they will find much to argue with (if they even bother to read and follow some of the referenced material before commenting).


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I've been disappointed lately in the level of much posting and commentary on the site of recent days, and much of my posting lately is an attempt to restore to the site, a quality of Objective thought, posting, and commentary; as well as further the value of reason over faith/belief.


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  • Posted by $ jlc 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Beautiful metaphor. It uses a positive symbol for 'faith' (who has not snuggled down into a warm comforter on a cold day?) but stresses the need to put that symbol aside (and who has not needed to get up anyway, in spite of the warm bed, when it was time to arise?).

    Hats off for poetic phrasing.

    Jan
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  • Posted by Herb7734 9 years, 9 months ago
    "...an attempt to restore to the site, a quality of Objective thought.."
    Insidious, isn't it, how faith creeps in like an ameba swallowing up all reason in its path? It seems as if certain people just have to attribute the, as yet, unexplained, to some ancient thought process formulated by scientific primitives.

    Faith based thinking can be comforting like snuggling up in a down filled comforter. But the only way to accomplish anything is to get out from under the covers and start using your brain and body.
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    Posted by woodlema 9 years, 9 months ago
    As a few in the Gulch are so quick to point out, "evidence is not proof."

    That statement in itself confirms what Radcliff said that both left and right both creationist and atheist, are two sides of the same coin.

    it is that faith in the face of reason that binds one faction of the Left to their faith-based counterparts on the Right and like on the Right, the Left has its charlatans and hypocrites delivering these sermons."
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    Posted by Temlakos 9 years, 9 months ago
    I'm probably going to shock a few people here.

    I happen to accept creation. And I have two classes of reason to support it.

    1. As jbrenner has already pointed out, much of the "science" behind biological evolution, "chemical evolution" (abiogenesis), and even nuclear physics, turns out to be non-reproducible. In fact it's just a repetition of the same old line. Nobody bothers to look at the evidence in any other way--and in fact the evidence they claim is often wildly inconsistent.

    2. I have hard evidence that this planet suffered an event violent enough to produce all the physical evidence the biological evolutionists routinely invoke--in a span of time little longer than a year. An event violent enough to kill every human being then alive--except for eight adults who had the presence of mind to sense (or heed a warning of) what was to come, and to build a vessel capable of withstanding the event and bringing them and several sets of live land-animal and avian specimens through it alive. An event that left its scars not only on the earth but throughout the entire solar system.

    You can see the full catalog of that evidence here:

    http://creationscience.com/onlinebook/

    I ask you all, in the spirit of objective inquiry, to follow that evidence and tell me where it leads.
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  • Posted by $ Thoritsu 9 years, 9 months ago
    I very much accept this hypothesis, and there is evidence it goes much further than religion and leftist beliefs. People do this in all walks of life. Just consumer opinion is an excellent example. Consumer opinion of American cars lagged quality measures by 5-6 years. Brand loyalty, and a variety of other "beliefs" are queered by a mental process most of us employ to various degrees.

    One of my buddies pointed me to a recent book where this concept of drawing a conclusion and then collecting supporting facts is tested and demonstrated. I forget the book name, but intend to go read it.

    Scientific American Mind has done a number of articles on Belief in God and various philanthropic tenancies. They would support your position here, although I do not think anyone there specifically related the two thought processes.
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  • Posted by khalling 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Isn 't that why we call it "soft"? People should be more skeptical of models and theories. I mean, it 's not like we can all go out and test their work, but I am often more skeptical of scientific findings in areas where the "science " is wrapped up in the political or the conclusions lead to speculation that man needs to be controlled in some way
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  • Posted by khalling 9 years, 9 months ago
    What is "ghost in the machine"?
    2. Although science est. Surely can make its way into the political realm; it seems disingenuous to start from the political to develop it. I agree with j that state funding plays a huge role.
    3. It is common for NIH and the NSF to request
    white papers in areas that have been specifically targeted by the administration as important
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  • Posted by $ jbrenner 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    There may be less in the hard sciences, but there is more experimenter bias even in the hard sciences than most people think.
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  • Posted by 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    j; You're very correct in you're listing. But I do see one glimmer in what I'll term the hard sciences, there seems to be less. It's the softer sciences working from theoretical work, models, mathematical models like M and String theory, and socio/psychological theories where the worst abuses seem to prevail.

    So much seems to suffer like the example in the referenced article. The ethics seems to have slipped their moorings.
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  • Posted by $ jbrenner 9 years, 9 months ago
    A suprisingly large amount of what gets published in scientific journals is not reproducible for a number of reasons.

    1. A result counter to the funding agency's or funding company's biases would lower the scientist's chances of getting future funding.
    2. Scientists have preconceived notions going in, called hypotheses. One sign of a scientist's worth is the willingness to admit that the results were inconsistent with his/her hypotheses.
    3. Some of these preconceived notions come from faith-based biases.
    4. As stated in what you cited, some scientists don't want their worldviews crushed by reality.
    5. The pressure on those funded to publish is high. This likely causes some ethical compromises.
    6. Research students want to finish, particularly if they get job offers. Details that the students knew, but their supervisors did not, then sometimes get left out of the resulting publication. Moreover, many researchers omit certain details so that their competition can't immediately catch up.
    I am sure there are more reasons.
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