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The Conflict Within - The Left's Version of Creationism

Posted by Zenphamy 9 years, 9 months ago to Philosophy
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I've mentioned in other comments, a recent book I've been reading and studying by a favorite Astro-physicist, Hilton Ratcliffe, titled "Stephen Hawking Smoked My Socks." The primary emphasis of this book, that follows much of Ratcliffe's previous work has to do with the effect of belief systems on scientific inquiry and mathematical formulation of and nonsensical corrections/additions to theories to incorporate such beliefs into current scientific research and even experimental findings. In these writings, Ratcliffe is really talking about socially derived belief's-faith's impact on science today, as well as the fact that all humans grow up with sets of belief systems that those in science, in particular though not exclusively, must first recognize such belief systems' impacts and their influences on their and their predecessors' work, but then take the extremely difficult path of ensuring that such does not interfere with their actual and factual experimental and measured findings and work.

Now, I've recently encountered another source in the referenced blog (Gene Expression), that goes even further than Ratcliffe in describing this phenomena of human existence in scientific work by delving into the scientific squabble that's been going on since the 70's with those, sometimes termed neo-darwinists', that searched for and believe they've found support in their studies and work to support what they've termed sociobiology. A term developed to explain many studied characteristics of today's individual humans actions and responses whose predilections in society are derived from evolutionary genetic traits at neural and molecular levels combined with environmentally influenced expressions. The referenced article, though not easily read, describes those opposing sociobiology as driven by their own early Marxist and Stalinist indoctrination that wish to believe that humans are so malleable as to be controlled through progressive/socialist government and institutional policies and imposed moralities.

The article goes on to compare the opposing leftist, progressive influence to the rightist, conservative arguments on creationism:
"Rose, like his fellow travellers Gould and Lewontin, doesn't want his worldview, which has been extensively shaped by Marxist philosophy, to come crumbling down. The solutions proffered are state centered, gene-phobic, and premised on the extreme malleability of human nature. Further, like Diamond, he knows what sells and what his fans want to read and hear. He panders to the ideology, whether he truly believes in the Ghost in the Machine or not, and despite the warnings offered by Ehrenreich, McIntosh and Konner, the faithful of the Left lap up the ideologically reassuring pablum and turn a blind eye to the reality unfolding before them. The core of this faith is that human nature is malleable beyond limits that now exist, and like I've written before, along with my co-bloggers, it is that faith in the face of reason that binds one faction of the Left to their faith-based counterparts on the Right and like on the Right, the Left has its charlatans and hypocrites delivering these sermons." (emphasis added)

For Objectivist, these ideas and concepts will make a lot of sense. For those dedicated to the validity of their beliefs-faith, as the author says, in the face of reason, they will find much to argue with (if they even bother to read and follow some of the referenced material before commenting).


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I've been disappointed lately in the level of much posting and commentary on the site of recent days, and much of my posting lately is an attempt to restore to the site, a quality of Objective thought, posting, and commentary; as well as further the value of reason over faith/belief.


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  • Posted by $ jbrenner 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I ask them to consider all of the ways that a material can fail during the design process, and then ask them what they can do preventively.
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  • Posted by plusaf 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Funny how electronic circuits, too, can oscillate and resonate without any 'moving parts,' eh?

    :)
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  • Posted by plusaf 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    :) How do they integrate "root cause analysis" into the 'early stages of the design process' before the material has failed and root cause has been determined?
    :)
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    Posted by Temlakos 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    And from my perspective that could never have happened. Because this earth cannot possibly be that old, nor our solar system either.
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Thank you for making things interesting by posting things I strongly disagree with. From my understanding, the evidence shows humans appeared here by descent with modification by means of natural selection. Earth appeared billions of hears ago.
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    " The argument is artificial and contrived to divide people. In my mind and conclusion, the understanding of the age of the earth and the long history of life on the planet - including humans - supports the understanding of evolution. However, this is the method of creation and is no less miraculous in its grandeur"
    Yes! I am not an expert in these areas, but I appreciate learning about the scientific models/theories. Thank you.
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    " the theory of evolution is only an hypothesis."
    It's a hypothesis that's been tested and become a theory, a theory that is part of the underpinning of modern biological science.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    OK -- another mis-reading. I didn't mean that you were getting in the way of a good metaphor, I meant that I would prefer a good metaphor over it's consequences. I think that's what I meant. Hell, now I'm not sure what I meant. See what happens when you get old?
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  • Posted by $ jbrenner 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I have done some of that, but there is more to be done. Fortunately I have until April.
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  • Posted by $ jbrenner 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    With an atomic force microscope, within a minute or so, you can see the effects of changing the P and I gains. In that case, the input to the resonance is electronic, but since one is using piezoelectric materials, it is really electromechanical.
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  • Posted by $ jbrenner 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I routinely tell my students that I am the quality control person at FIT. If an alum is responsible for a publicized materials failure, it will affect the value of all their degrees. Instead of doing root cause analysis after a materials failure, I teach them to integrate it into the early stages of the design process to help define requirements apprhttp://www.galtsgulchonline.com/addcomment/*....
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  • Posted by 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Personally, I think the math to Einstein was just a tool of communication used to explain his 'insight'. But Einstein was able to make predictions that were testable only awaiting an eclipse suitable for the photography necessary to confirm the bending of light. So far M and string follow outside that and I don't think they'll ever make it in the door. They differ from Einstein in that they're both derived from the math, not the insight.
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  • Posted by 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Show him the morality of owning himself, earning for himself, creating for himself, and producing.
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  • Posted by plusaf 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    But Herb, you can't beat a degree from the college my parents founded... Falk U....
    :)
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  • Posted by plusaf 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Overcontrolling? Not 'too many poles in the right-half plane"?
    Resonance is a mechanical function or electronic function. Controlling it means adjusting components to prevent positive feedback or uncontrolled growth of the oscillations.
    Undercontrolling, much as 'overcontrolling' can have the same results.

    Ah, forget it... you're right... of course.
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  • Posted by plusaf 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    J, I watched that film around 1963 as a freshman at Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute. Why were we shown that movie?

    One reason was that the bridge was designed by an RPI grad.

    And from its design, a LOT of 'new knowledge' about resonance and torsional stiffness sprang up from that immense failure.

    Please keep in mind that most of civilization is an uncontrolled experiment, and one of the only reasons there are still humans walking the face of the earth is that humans are damned good at "figuring out what went wrong" AND learning from it and Making Corrections damned quickly.

    And in my book, that's applicable to EVERY Catastrophic Prediction people are worried about today! Everything is a Definite End-Of-World Scenario and will extrapolate to infinity.

    Except when it doesn't.
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  • Posted by plusaf 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Well, it took some decades for some of Einstein's 'theories' to be proven experimentally, too... some times the technology of measurement takes a while to catch up with the insights of math.
    :)
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  • Posted by plusaf 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    About 40-some years ago, at a bed-and-breakfast in western Austria, just over the Swiss border, my wife and I shared a bed with a down comforter which must have been more than a foot thick.
    She was comfortable; I 'sleep warm' and often still do, so after a while, one foot stuck out, then a leg, then an arm, and eventually almost none of the comforter was atop me... in the unheated room.
    Some "standard solutions" aren't.
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  • Posted by $ winterwind 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    It was not my intention to get in the way of the metaphor; it was my intention to strengthen it: sometimes things which feel good are dangerous.
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  • Posted by conscious1978 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Nah, I wasn't implying you were teaching him philosophy, just curious if he had voiced thoughts that would lead you to that nick-name. He sounds like a good person to collaborate with.
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