Judicial Watch: IRS Produces Recovered Lerner Emails

Posted by $ nickursis 9 years, 9 months ago to Government
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Your government in action: The mounds of evidence showing how they were intentionally taking action against specific political groups mounts and mounts, yet there is no actioon by either Justice or Ethics on doing anything substantial but grandstanding. I wonder if this has been part and parcel of every administration, and the employees just change their flags of allegiance to suit the animal in the white house. It seems hard to believe they stacked the IRS with democratic sympathizers in a few short years, because that would mean they dumped a whole bunch of republicrats to make room. Seems sort of weird to be able to find the right people to do your dirty work. More pages from AS....


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  • Posted by $ 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Indeed, with all the evidence, and known facts, nothing has been done about it, and nothing probably will be. As long as it was done to the "right" people, most americans couldn't give a hoot less, they will still vote for them, because they were "their" corrupt IRS people who did it to "them". The root of our destruction is our lack of ethical values, bad is bad only when it happens to one of ours, and if any one else, well, they probably deserved it and it didn't matter because they hate abortion. Crazy...
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  • Posted by $ 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I am not so sure Neal, the FBI kept files on people who the administration wanted done in, Hoover was famous for his secret files. Oppenheimer was drummed out because some other goober hated the fact he was successful in a thermonuclear as well as nuclear device. I am not sure if we have had any "honest" politicians, because the very nature of "democracy" means you have to pursuade some people to your side, and buying and selling votes has been a tool for a very, very long time. My guess is George Washington, may, and I am not sure, have been our only "honest" politician, only because he didn't want it, didn't ask for it, and was only interested because they told him he was the only one who could pull the various factions together. That is why I never believe a word any politician says, they are worse then used car sales people (not slighting used car sales people on purpose, some are really good and nice).
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  • Posted by $ 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I just cannot figure out though, how did they change out the management? Is it always a wholesale slaughter after every election? These guys were bound and determined to screw the Conservatives, no matter what laws or rules were broken. So the infamous government ethics code is nonexistent. So party affiliation seems the criteria for work, and that is what is so bizarre in this.
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  • Posted by johnpe1 9 years, 9 months ago
    the head of the snake changes with the administration, and
    the body just follows along. . political organizations are inherently
    loyal-or-else, in my experience. . I worked for a prime contractor
    for 33 years, and the political winds blew no good!!! -- j
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  • Posted by NealS 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    It's never been as corrupt as it is now, that's for sure. It's almost like there are no honest politicians what so ever. We may need to stop paying them to serve us. I wonder if Hillary would want the job if it didn't pay anything at all. But I also think Mitt would have done it for nothing. He should have used that as his campaign message.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    How did that make him different from any other President? If it lwalks, talks, and sounds like a Democrat it could very well be a Republican - and vice versa. All left wing socialist fascists. Sorry. All Smiley Face left wing socialist fascists.
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  • Posted by $ jdg 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    For me, it was "gone for good" back in the '70s, when Nixon had the IRS audit people on his "enemies list." How times have (not) changed!
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  • Posted by hattrup 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    ..."She could make recommendations, but they had to be approved by a board of review, made up of department senior civil servants"
    and this was never changed when the Republicans
    (conservatives?) controlled the Senate, House, and Exec branch from 2005-2007.... and House and Senate from 1995-2001
    (not that you accused Republicans of being conservative, btw).
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  • Posted by NealS 9 years, 9 months ago
    So far this scenario from the start is making me want to throw up. How could our government get so corrupt right under our noses? Where are the demonstrations?
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  • Posted by walkabout 9 years, 9 months ago
    Unfortunately bureaucracies -- all bureaucracies -- are staffed by people who believe in bureaucracy. I was going to say, "they are top down thinkers," but the truth is they are not thinkers at all. They are followers. They don't think, and may be incapable of thinking, that the leader is not leading them in the right direction.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 9 years, 9 months ago
    If you expect "equal justice for all" under this administration, you're going to be massively disappointed. The IRS has always operated on the edge of legitimacy, but under the Obama Regime it has become an out and out criminal organization.
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  • Posted by $ Thoritsu 9 years, 9 months ago
    Absolute power corrupts. This institution need to go.

    Eliminate the IRS via a flat rate tax on corporations, persons, capital gains, et al.
    Negative rate to provide welfare, with nominal zero set at a "poverty level, and the negative rate set such that there remains an incentive to earn more.
    Balanced budget amendment.
    Should we eliminate non-profit status altogether?
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  • Posted by $ Thoritsu 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Right! "As long as I stay employed by the IRS, I get to eat before the masses when the food runs out"
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  • Posted by j_IR1776wg 9 years, 9 months ago
    Sleaze on parade. How embarrassing that this is the government of the United States of America.
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  • Posted by DrZarkov99 9 years, 9 months ago
    The deck against conservatives has been stacked over decades. The tribe of unelected bureaucratic mandarins have always been in favor of job security, so a constantly-growing government has been the result.

    The so-called civil "servants" could care less about the people they are supposed to serve. You can occasionally find a government employee who sincerely believes their job is to help the taxpayer, but they either get run off, or have their integrity stomped out of them before they infect others with their honesty.

    The elected, or those chosen by the elected, are kept in their delusions of control. Condoleeza Rice disclosed the incestuous nature of agency politics when she told us that she was shocked to discover that even as Secretary of State she didn't have the power to fire, demote, or reassign a department employee. She could make recommendations, but they had to be approved by a board of review, made up of department senior civil servants.

    JFK helped create this nightmare when he authorized government employee unions, in spite of FDR's warnings against allowing them. The only way out of this mess is wholesale slaughter of the larger agencies, and revoking the government employee unions credentials.
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  • Posted by brs02 9 years, 9 months ago
    They do not switch their allegiances. They are statists regardless of administration or Congress.
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  • Posted by $ 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You, sir, are a scholar and a gentleman. You are also right. My observations exactly and well put.I won't get started on the alien thing though..shapeshifters and all...
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  • Posted by SaltyDog 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    In the short term Nick, it truly is of no consequence to them, and short term is as far as their myopic world view allows the to see. Government in general is completely different from us in that we care what we do today because we want to make things at least a little better for our successors. That thought is completely alien to politicians and bureaucrats, despite their rhetoric; they think only as far as their next meal.
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  • Posted by $ 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Again, right on, the sheer "pick and choose" performance of the last 6 years is as damaging as the IRS thing is to them, yet they are so arrogant as to believe that it is of no consequence.
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  • Posted by $ 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You are correct, the revelation that they did what should be illegal (political targeting) has done an immeasurable amount of damage to their appearance as unbiased. And more access to our records means more material to work with in many respects, including "pressure" to conform or contribute.
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  • Posted by SaltyDog 9 years, 9 months ago
    The one single thing that the IRS has always had going for it was that the perception was that everyone got screwed equally, regardless of political allegiance. I think I'm safe in saying that's gone for good, never to return. The public in general will be unified in playing keep away from them. This specifically is why I believe that there's such a push on from Washington to gain access to all of our financial transactions at every level.
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  • Posted by $ blarman 9 years, 9 months ago
    With Justice being run by an ideologue only interested in protecting insiders, it is no wonder at all.
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