Keystone opponents vow civil disobedience, vigils starting Monday

Posted by mminnick 12 years ago to News
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It is their right to use civil disobedience. It is the right of the builders and property owners to keep trespassers out.
All sides should be very careful on what they do, when they do it and most especially where they do it.


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  • Posted by Danno 12 years ago
    Environmentalism has turned into a religion (i.e. faith manipulation program). This is also more broadly the danger of Politics. Economics has already crossed the threshold.
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  • Posted by $ WillH 12 years ago in reply to this comment.
    Sounds like you made out very well on that deal. 1500 yard range? I would have taken that too. LOL
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  • Posted by $ stargeezer 12 years ago in reply to this comment.
    Actually, they don't buy most of the land they cross, they purchase a easement that's listed on your deed. It allows them to cross your land for access to install, inspect and maintain. They are forced to return the surface of your property to the condition it was before they crossed your land.

    If you choose to protest and not accept the offer, thanks to the liberal side of SCOTUS the court can force your hand "for the public good". While I disagree with this on most levels, a easement is not the same thing as taking you property from you.

    In full disclosure, I just went through some of this when a pipe line was installed across a part of my land. This ground is land I bought years ago so that I'd always have a place to shoot and hunt. The two 36" underground pipelines set twenty feet apart required the clearing of my land 100' wide down the full length of my property. Since the land is not used for agriculture, I wasn't paid that much, but what I did get was a 100 foot wide cleared area that they mounded a twenty foot backstop on the rear of my ground and a smooth, hard packed gravel road all the way down. I ended up with a 1500yd range. Not everybody would have wanted this, but for my needs, it is a perfect improvement to my ground. One of my neighbors asked for trees to be replanted and they did that for him. Immature trees, of course, but they were very accommodating. They also put in a new culvert and access road that would have cost me tens of thousands to do.

    All in all, it was well done.
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  • Posted by SolitudeIsBliss 12 years ago
    It's easy to hold a vigil when you don't have a job. Amazing that these imbeciles would prohibit someone from earning a living.
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  • Posted by $ WillH 12 years ago
    Most of this is the usual stupid resistance to true and factual progress in favor of a bunch of emotionalism and speculation with one exception.

    “Kleeb said 115 landowners in Nebraska still refuse to sign agreements with pipeline developer TransCanada and would engage in nonviolent civil disobedience if the company tries to lay pipe through their land.”

    If I own land then I own it. If I refuse to sell and/or allow a pipeline to traverse it then that is the final word on the matter. Yes, it may be a stupid decision on my part because I could have charged an annual use fee instead of selling, but it is MY decision to make.
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  • Posted by Hiraghm 12 years ago
    ""I think you'll see some landowners driving really slow on their county roads to block the (pipeline) trucks.""

    They'll drive REALLY slow if the oil and gas companies retaliate by refusing to sell any fuel to the gas stations of the area.

    Nobody has the *right* to civil disobedience. They have the right to peaceably assemble, but they don't have the right to trespass or harm another's equipment or workplace.
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