Jan, I agree with you, I do find his speech to generally be boorish, and he has the manners of Attila the Hun, but then, Attila did accomplish some things. Trum is a master manipulator, and he is a product of the Republican sell out to special interests and media, so they lost all connection to the voter base, expecting them to "comply and conform" just as the Democraps have. As long as we have 2 parties that consistently chase the money trail, and when elected with their false promises, then proceed to start work on the next election, people will migrate to whoever has the temerity to actually voice what most of them see as the truth. Trump conviently ignores the details, like when he said he would "fix ISIS by putting boots on the ground". He sort of forgot about all the other little things that will get in the way, like other countries, getting them there, supplying them, and some weirdos called the Russians and Chinese, not to mention Iran. All that could be addressed, but I think he believes he just saddles up the 101st and sends them on the way with a phone call. I have not seen any evidence to support any deeper thought than he will yell at whoever to get what he wants. The first time Vlad flips him off and says "Bite Me", he will die of a stroke, then we need to see who the VP is. If the morons want to really vote him in, I hope Ben Carson is VP.

Can you say...Hegelian Dialectic?
Create a problem, pressure you to scream about it and call out for someone to stop this crap...at this point?...Gotch ya!

I am convinced, Vote for him and we're screwed!
You think he's not connected to the Bildeburgs!
Think again...

Apparently you've never heard her speak. She is devoid of understanding her talking points. She is truly stupid. OK, maybe not retarded, just dumb as Hell.

So Schindler, by joining the Nazi Party, saved thousands of lives. Or, he could have been openly defiant, shot and killed a couple of Nazis, and would have been killed himself, along with the thousands that he saved. I'm using this example to illustrate that some things are not black and white simple.

Not having been there..., no first hand knowledge, but if I recall, Prince John and the Sheriff and the Church still wanted other peoples' money, so after the robbery, they would just send the tax collectors back to get more. Now, if Robin would have killed the Prince, and the Sheriff, and the Bishop.... Well, that would have been a different story.

Let's refer this to Ayn Rand. As you recall, in "We the Living," the choice was to hold your head high and die, or to join the system and survive. Really, neither is a good choice. But given reality, I would expect by far the majority to join the system. The alternative is not to make a martyr out of an individual, but to change the system so that honesty thrives and corruption extinguishes itself. Obviously, everyone on the Democrat side carries the torch of corruption, but so do Bushes and Christies and the establishment company. They are all mired in corruption, but will never admit it. At least Trump admits it, which is the first (and a required) step to fixing the problem. He is a successful businessman and, now, a politician - so I expect him to be corrupt. But he may be the best one out there to stop the corruption (or slow it down, at least).

But every congressman and senator has been spending the country into bankruptcy. Trump created jobs for thousands of people; he created value. No congressman, senator or president created any jobs, nor value. This is not to say that Trump is great; just that if we were to use the same standards as we use in re-electing the scum in the government, Trump would be solid gold.

A box of dirt? Ha, what do you think we have now and have been having for a long time? I would say a crate of it!

This should not be a prep school for aspiring candidates to face the DEMOCRATS. This should be an interchange of ideas of how to lead the country. Instead, it was made into personal snipping between the candidates and the media, often on subjects that really don't matter. What difference does it make what Trumps thinks of fat women, for example (including Rosie)? This should have been a direct discussion (if that is even possible anymore) between the candidates, with some moderate moderation.

Martimus, I do not think that was the story. He stole from Prince John, the Sheriff and the Church-all of which worked in collusion to steal wealth from villagers and land owners

you are welcome william ;)

Rand said that you were allowed to utilize any govt program because you had paid into the immoral system. This included govt grants.

I understand why it happened, Martimus. I was curious why the original story of Robin Hood would be rejected as immoral, but the act of the Tea Party would not be.

A bit of history about the Boston tea party, first to answer they did not take any tea and it was not really even about the 1% tax on the tea it was about what that represented.

First off each colony had a governor that was appointed by the King. There was also a counsel of Burgesses that was elected advisers to that governor. The Burgesses of nearly every state (lead by Virginia) brought up the 15 taxes as unfair if charged only to the colonies and not to all of the British empire. As a result the King disbanded the burgesses.

When the bergesses were instated again all of the taxes were dropped except the tea tax. The Boston Tea Party was about the King getting feedback he did not like from those that represented the people and simply shutting down that source of self representation and doing what he wanted anyway.

Nothing was looted, it was a group of people responding with force to send a message that the force used to disband there representation would not be tolerated.

The king decreed about 15 new taxes.

Actually I do, and would support a person today who quite honestly stole from the federal government in some way and gave it back to the original owners.

That is not the same philosophically or from a value system as taking money from a program offered by the government. Ragnar was in open defiance of the theft of his property, he was not hiding behind the available options to give sanction to the thief by playing by the rules they set up to get the money.

If I sign up for and take a dime from the fed or state government in some way where I ask for it. I also justify that its civil and OK to steal from me in the first place. Ragnar did not give them that, he made them face their theft and the consequences of it by not saying it was OK by playing by there rules but rather used the rules they had set up to take the money (force) against them.

Indeed I would love to see a Ragnar or a few thousand that would refuse to participate in making civil something that is not. If even 10% of all business and individuals would go on strike collecting and paying taxes for state and federal government it would be to many people to jail without serious cultural, economic and infrastructure consequences binding states hands. Others would fallow suit and the negotiations that would happen would change the US in the right direction forever. This would be a modern equivalent to Ragnar and may actually accomplish something.

Thanks for stirring up the pot on the issue of Trump's life record.

Jefferson's vehement attack on banks was based on a lack of understanding of how they work - this comes through in his attack on banks.

Can you show me something that shows he knows how they worked? In fact, Jefferson seems to have held economic views that were closest to the physiocrats https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physioc.... Jefferson was brilliant man, but not about economics. He wanted the US to be made up of self-sufficient farmers, who were philosophers. Luckily he did not actually follow this point of view as president.

I just returned from my dentist's office where I saw an editorial cartoon in today's The Birmingham News.
Megyn Kelly sits at a desk holding a pipe as if to look like an old-fashioned patriarch figure.
Donald Trump's head is floating in the air.
Kelly says: "Go ahead, make my career."
Trump says, "Go ahead, make my dinner."
It took me a couple of seconds to "get it."
Then I barked out a laugh in the waiting room with people looking at me.

When Henry runs for POTUS we can examine his record. Trump's record does not inspire confidence in his business acumen, nor in his ethics. We must consider what he does more than what he says.

How do you come to the conclusion that Jefferson didn't know how fractional reserve banks worked, please?

I am glad to hear someone else say that Robin Hood was a thief. He did not rob just from the king. I think that he is much more like the occupiers of Wall Street.

Was Henry Ford a genius at business?!? He also went bankrupt. The genius of America is that, rather than letting a failure be a death blow, one can start over as many times as necessary until one succeeds.

Shortly after the debate, Kelly stated that Trump cannot expect his opposition to play nice.
IMO, early debates should be a process for weeding out candidates who will not be able to hack in the big league.
Trump is crazy if he thinks Benghazi Killary won't throw (factual) mud.

Hello, K,
How come you say that? Boston tea party, I thought, was an anti-tax rebellion. Wasn't it?