Poor Colorado is not going to get its new taxes

Posted by $ WillH 11 years, 2 months ago to Politics
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Oh, poor government babies. They legalize pot, not because it is harmless and there is no logical reason for it to be illegal, but so they can get new taxes. It looks like they might not get them. My heart bleeds for them. *snif snif*


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  • Posted by Hiraghm 11 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Since when has taking a gateway drug EVER led to reduced drug use?

    This is like the same idiots who claimed that exposing young children to sex "education" would reduce sexual activity among young people, because they'd no longer be curious.
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  • Posted by Hiraghm 11 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The cultural traditions of alcohol and tobacco go back centuries (with alcohol, millennia) for us.
    We tried prohibition with alcohol, and it made it even worse. But, until recently, until the moderns launched their attacks on our society, pot was NEVER part of our culture.

    I find it not ironic, but telling, how the decades long war on tobacco has played out, but NOT ONE person opposed to the criminalization of pot has even suggested, if we agreed to make it legal, to launch a similar war on pot. NOT ONE.

    Tobacco use is down, because the ball-less wonders who hated their daddies for being men launched a campaign decades ago, starting with "well, we SHOULD have an area in restaurants for people with lung problems to eat"... to the point that now tobacco users are social pariahs, and even the use of e-cigs is being attacked.

    The only smoker in the AS movies, btw, was Hugh Akston, and I don't recall him actually inhaling.

    But will you moderns conduct such a war on pot? No. Why? Because the point wasn't to improve people's health, but to corrupt and change the culture.

    There's a news clip out there from Iraq, I believe. A few years ago, because I actually got a letter to the editor published about it, I remember it. Some asshat was complaining about the use of tobacco in the movie, "Chicago", decrying how it might make the protagonists look "cool".
    After reading it, I saw the clip... a handful of heroes engaged in a firefight, dragged a wounded one behind cover, and the officer offered him a cigar, which he lit up like a man. To me, rolling him a joint and passing it around just doesn't seem appropriate, or even manly, in that situation.

    So I'm going to fight to restore my culture.
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  • Posted by Hiraghm 11 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You brought up reefer madness, not me.

    Watch my finger... I point at ALL OF YOU SCUMBAG 21ST CENTURY MODERNS...

    You shake your head in wonder at the disconnect between environmentalists and the need for energy and technology, but you have an equal disconnect when it comes to a healthy, successful society and the toilet you've turned this one into.

    Nice try at hiding behind your mother; I'm not supposed to attack potheads anymore because you claim she was one.

    I have no idea how well your mother did or did not raise you, but I *do* know that had the progressives NOT perverted this country she wouldn't have been using pot.

    No one brought up reefer madness, but I've met and seen plenty of potheads... pink-eyed, staggering around, NOT producing (worse, preventing others from producing), with the skunk-stench of pot emanating from them.

    I no longer care what the pricetag is; what y'all have done to this society, you moderns, I find intolerable, and I will fight with everything I can to drag us back to the 1940s or earlier, culturally.
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  • Posted by $ 11 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Ok then. Let's follow your logic to its final conclusion and make food illegal too. Then no one will be fat. I am sorry, I am trying to take what you said seriously, but it seems nothing more than the usual rhetoric excusing the federal government for taking control of people’s lives. Yes, I knew someone that smoked pot back when it was “just pot” and she was fine. She was a career nurse of over thirty years and did a fine job raising us to believe in the power of the individual. I am pretty sure she still had a brain. One tends to know their mother pretty well.

    Oh, and it has been proven long ago that “Refer Madness” was a propaganda film with no real science backing.
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  • Posted by USAONENATIONUNDERGOD 11 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Have you friends that have used pot back in the day when it was just pot? I think not but even those that I know and I am not a young one they have NO brain anymore their sense of right and wrong is distorted...there is PLENTY that is harm full with the use of pot...as any DRUG!!!!!!!!!!! OR anything that can be addictive...alcohol or tobacco as well...if one has no control anything even food can be addictive!
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  • Posted by TexanSolar 11 years, 2 months ago
    So now you must use cash to buy pot in Colorado.

    This will not affect them at all. They will still get their money.

    Good for Colorado
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  • Posted by $ 11 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I agree, although I would have a hard time supporting the legalization of things like cocaine or meth because of their overwhelmingly acute destructive natures. I do think there is credible evidence that the total legalization of pot may provide and outlet reducing the consumption of hardcore drugs. The other thing that gets me is how the liberals see the legalization of something that should not even be illegal to begin with as an opportunity to tax people more and more, and then turn around and give the money back in the form of social programs.

    I think this situation provides another example of how when a state stands firm the federal government is usually the one to blink first and back off. My hope is that this will serve as an example to other states wanting to promote the ideals of personal liberty within their own state.
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  • Posted by khalling 11 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Pot's ok but I dont really appreciate the feeling. I never understand the law and order conservative argument on this. Take it or leave it but don 't tell me to take it or leave it. They claim to want less govt but enjoy the police state legislating my morality. Those cartels and over crowded prisons would be gone tomorrow if they just got rid of drug laws. I am in favor of stricter sentencing for people charged with a crime under the influence.
    once the federal govt comes up with new policy on this -this will be a huge win for states rights. I mean the federal govt says illegal but if your state says legal they 'll make an allowance. Wow
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  • Posted by freedomforall 11 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Feds can 'go after' anyone these days. But if Colorado was running the bank as a state enterprise imo the feds would be more likely to try to twist arms politically (maybe via some federal funding programs.) Then all the states with med marijuana laws might join forces... just the sort of thing the feds like to avoid, too much publicity. The issue might even change to a fight against state chartered banks, since that could be a bigger threat to the pirates that tell the con-gress what to do. (All speculation though.)
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  • Posted by $ 11 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    How is this different from alcohol or tobacco?

    Does this mean you have the long lost proof that people die from smoking pot?

    If your justification for it being illegal is that it is "bad" for you do you also propose to make illegal my cigarettes because they can cause me cancer, my fatty foods because they could give me heart disease, my ice cream because it could give me diabetes, and my ammo reloading operations because they could raise the level of lead in my blood?

    It seems inconsistent to me that you are so staunch on the size and function of the federal government, but also believe someone should be prevented from smoking pot BY FORCE OF LAW.

    I have never been a pot smoker, but that is by choice, not because the government tells me no.
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    Posted by Hiraghm 11 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    It's addictive, it causes brain damage, it damages the lungs, and I might breathe some of it in if you smoke it around me, which means it's lethal...
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  • Posted by $ 11 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    What is the harm of pot, and why should it be illegal as compared to alcohol or tobacco?
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  • Posted by khalling 11 years, 2 months ago
    Oh theyll figure something out. They want their pipe and to smoke it too
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  • Posted by Rozar 11 years, 2 months ago
    Government can't even make its own existence easier. How is it supposed to be a benefit to anyone else?
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  • Posted by Rozar 11 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I think the Fed's could go after state Banks too, they would just be a smaller target.
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  • Posted by khalling 11 years, 2 months ago
    This is a major problem for the industry. I 've posted about this before. Working a cash business with no traditional means of showing the assets has pushed them into offering alternative currencies and hiring private security firms. Where does all the cash go? As well the laws have been murky on sales in general leading some venders to sell you a service say car wash, for 50 bucks and "give " you some weed. However, this is all new and will be volitile for some time.
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    Posted by Hiraghm 11 years, 2 months ago
    Of course, it's not harmless and therefore there's a reason for it to be illegal.

    But, on the other hand, I'm always happy when government is denied a new revenue source.
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