Yes, in 3D the mountain ranges would be such obvious zones of safety. A comparison of that map with a similar one of rates of specific crimes would be very enlightening, I think.

Regarding FFA`s stat chart: I would guess a more descriptive title would be " ...gun ownership by State as percent of population that admitted to gun ownership" Either that, or all 24.5% of Floridians that are counted live in my County. Did I mention I feel very secure in my County?

A map showing the per capita ownership percentage by county would be interesting. ;)

If they want to throw the gauntlet down be ready for rivers of blood and martyrs in every state. I'm sure Texas and Arizona gun owners will not go quietly into the night. They will own the night! History tells us that the Civil War was an awful carnage. The govt. trys to take away our Guns whether through subterfuge or trying to repeal the 2nd Amendment it will culminate in Civil War 2.0 which will cause states to seceed from the Union.

From my understanding the second amendment was to allow citizens to protect themselves from and to rise up against an unjust government like the British at the time. THATS the reason for the second amendment. If the government wants us to give up our guns, they should give up theirs at the same time. It has little to do with protecting me in my home really. I rely on my two pit bulls for that. Prevention is a lot more efficient than shooting someone and getting sued or hailed for it

Instead they bought the landmarks in NYC that were for sale, and apparently depended on NYC real estate agents ;^)

Probably right, but the % in the city is low and that dense population lowers the average.

The Japanese wouldn't invade the US because of the level of gun ownership. If any knucklehead is willing to believe the statistics, then New York would be a pushover. Let him jump into the briar patch if he wants to.

If you believe those so-called "statistics," I have a used bridge to sell you. If you believe that only 18% of the people in New York have guns, you'll believe anything.

What caliber club (or knife) did Cain use to kill Abel?

Does anyone find it odd that there doesn't seem to be any correlation between gun population percentages and the number and types of gun laws in the states? And it seems gun laws do not stop crimes. Perhaps we should make more laws against crime.

I can understand that.
The 1911 has such a great history that it's almost an honor just to own one. I came very close to buying a WW1 version, but it got bought out from under me.

Don't give the b-----ds ideas.

Thanks for the link. I have seen that clip (!) before, but it was worth watching again.

Jan

the gun-control and gun-abolishment advocates have a problem:::
they know that they can't make the change directly, so they chew
and chew at it with small bites -- convincing the kids and closing off
public parks and the like -- to make it happen slowly....... .
like the slow progressive take-over of the u.s. which
began with Teddy Roosevelt and Woodrow Wilson
and continues to this day.......
with Liz Warren and Hillary and Bernie and BHO. -- j
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As I understand it and I think it was Jefferson or maybe Washington said that reason for the second amendment was to give the people the right to bear arms against a repressive government, not for militia purposes specifically. As I see it we need the guns more than ever since the government has become more and more repressive.

Love it. However, in Wyoming, anyone who can legally own a pistol can carry a pistol, open or concealed, and I normally carry a Glock 19 with a trigger job to shorten the pretravel of the trigger. Not like a 1911, but better. And simple and cheap.

How do you like the legendary 45?

The gun argument is something that politicians try to use when they're getting something over on us (they'll bring back the gun control argument to keep the news cycle busy when they're pulling the wool over our eyes on something else). This is no different than the smoking argument. If smoking is SO bad for you, and now they're pushing how bad SECOND HAND smoke is so bad for you, yet they never try to ban cigarettes? Why??? They're money makers: Cigarette taxes bring in all sorts of revenue to the states. If they are SO deadly, why haven't they banned them like they've banned so many drugs by the use of the FDA? Why hasn't your local health department taken the initiative to eliminate them? Follow the money people.. These arguments are what the "government" use to keep us lemmings busy. Why do you think that there has not been cures for most of the diseases we've been working on the past 1/2 century? There's no money in the cure, only money in the RESEARCH... Nobody wants the money to get cut off. If we go after the guns, it will take money that the special interests don't want to part with.

The stat is for private ownership, but I do think that there are likely a lot of unregistered firearms that would increase the number.

When will the northern 1/3 of CA get balls enough to tell the rest of the state to pound sand and split to form their own state? (Never is my guess)

When do I hide my PC, TV and my guns in the neighboring woods (after checking the weather report), trash my house, inwardly break open the easiest window for a burglar to climb in through and report a robbery?
What would make me resort to such extreme measures?
It would be on the news.

We're #1, we're #1 !!! YAY!!! Sitting here, looking at the Wind River Mountains and fondling my ....... 1911..........

I think your assessment of CA would also apply to several other states. If you get away from NYC in New York, or away from Chi in Illinois, you get out into some pretty rural area, and I bet the per-capita gun ownership goes up considerably.