I really like that you guys are doing this research. Thank you. Now having said that, may I say a few things? While I like the idea of remote, the more remote the better, is Fiji the best we can do? As a nation they suck. I think autonomy is a major issue and should be unconditional, including the ability to protect ourselves.

Could our refuge be somehow inexpensive to get to? By boat perhaps. I would like the ability to bring my tools and other supplies I would deem necessary to build a new life. I don't believe our stay in the Gulch will be short nor easy. The better supplied initially the better off we would be, not to mention independent of the corrupt world.

I know the challenges of this whole idea of a real time Gulch are great and I respect you guys for taking it on I live in the upper Midwest of the US. I have seriously looked at moving to the Redoubt that James Rawles seems to have somewhat established in the upper part of the western states. However, The sheer logistics of packing up and moving to an informal Gulch still within the US borders is daunting at best.

I wish you guys success with this, please keep us informed

Hi freedom-
Granted, there are some issues with sovereignty and political instability. However, no matter where you go, there will be issues of these natures to deal with. As to the distance involved, for me, it is one of the plusses. The original Atlantis from AS, made itself, basically, technologically separate. Since we do not have that ability at the present time, the option is to do it geographically. There will be no perfect locale for our Atlantis. The best we can do is take all the criteria and see which one matches the most. I guess I'm not as opposed to being in a faraway place. Hell, I'd even take the trip to Mars, if they would let me.

John, what I see in those two examples is small properties with no infrastructure for $30,000 per acre, and they don't include any concessions of sovereignty from the existing government.
They are both in Fiji, imo, too far from the families of the Americans we would hope to attract to Atlantis.
Assuming that tourism is your initial primary industry, nearest airport is 102 miles from Vanua Levu. Have you found any info on what is involved in getting to the islands from there?
Fiji has a history of nationalizing industry and frequent coups. It's 1990 constitution " institutionalises ethnic Fijian domination of the political system."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History...
Fiji has only been democratic since Sept 2014, so there is little evidence that will continue. Per an Aussie government site, Fiji government receives about $120 million in foreign aid in total, 52% from Australia. However, China pledged $167 million in grants and loans on 2007.Chinese companies have also invested in mining industry in Fiji.
Military aid is received from Australia, the People's Republic of China.
Army:
2000 troops, 2/3 stationed in Fiji, 1/3 on UN missions in middle east.
Navy:
3 Pacific class patrol boat (Australia, displacement 162 t, length 31,5 m, width 8,1 m, draught 1,8 m, power 2 x 1,050 kW, maximal speed 20 knots (37 km/h), crew 17 man, equipment machine guns 1 x 12,7 mm.
2 patrol boat (USA, displacement 97 t, crew 11 man, equipment machine guns 1 x 12,7 mm)
4 Dabur class patrol boat (Israel, displacement 39 t, crew 9 man, equipment 2 x cannon 20 mm, 2 x machine guns 7,62)
Air wing: disbanded in 1997
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republi...
Some details of military coups also on that link.

Oops. My bad. Let me see what I can do:

http://www.privateislandsonline.com/i...

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Hope this is better.

The links I see are only to photos, with no information on the property. Please post links to property details.