Posted by $jlc 9 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
OW!
I do like the way they couched teaching creationism into a bill called Academic Freedom. It is an excellent example of 'freedom' being spun until it is dizzy. Makes you want to teach the flying spaghetti monster, doesn't it?
Posted by $jlc 9 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
A quick scan via a search engine leads me to believe that SD is all over the board on the issue of evolution - they defeated a creationist bill (called Bill for Academic Freedom or some such) but there seems to be a lot of pushback on that.
they might sit on the fence and say, "The science tells us all about evolution, and some think in terms of creation;;; we will explore them in that order." -- j .
Posted by $jlc 9 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
So, you think it was sorted by 'controversial' vs 'non-controversial'? Interesting - could be the case. One must wonder what they will do when it comes to teaching evolution,
It is not "the lack of cognitive and reasoning ability", it is the deliberate erasure of the ability of our children to think for themselves. John Dewey, the father of modern education, wrote
"I believe that we violate the child's nature and render difficult the best ethical results, by introducing the child too abruptly to a number of special studies, of reading, writing, geography, etc., out of relation to this social life" and.
" I believe, therefore, that the true centre of correlation of the school subjects is not science, nor literature, nor history, nor geography, but the child's own social activities."
Too bad there isn't a Venezuela channel right now. Maybe the AS tv series will focus in real time how socialism destroys a society and maybe goes into how to rebuild one. AS itself stops short of the rebuilding phase
In modern terms if one searches for a high school diploma under the standards of five decades ago one asks for a Bachelors Degree. When i see High School on a form I automatically assume illiteracy and deficient in mathematics and the sciences unless proven otherwise. I discount grades in any school as be useless. Put to the test when I assisted in scholarship selections my co examiners were shocked to find out close to mark my slings and arrows had struck. The exam was quite simple. "In your own handwriting state why you should receive a scholarship." One passed but then only one took the test.
they must have found that avoiding the difficult stuff was a way to have more friendly classrooms. . all of the kids get participation ribbons the first day!!! -- j .
Interesting you mentioned the Hitler Channel documentaries. I got a great laugh from that one.
But seriously, I have watched them to no end because the reality of that history scares the crap out of me. And always has since being a kid in the 60's. I got enough history from school as a kid to be aware enough, but the in-depth history is intense.
In some ways the fact that these Hitler and WWII documentaries are so popular is that there is a healthy interest coming from the younger generations in that history. A lot of it starts with the basic question of Daddy (now granddaddy), what did you do during the war? And it just goes from there. But in that, there is a good sign for hope.
There is also another mechanism I have found. I have made it a point on many matters, particularly civics, to actually acquire an edition that was published back in the day.
Example: I acquired a high school civics textbook published in 1894 written by a Constitutional scholar from Iowa. In it, he laid out how when the soon-to-become State of Utah would be admitted into the Union, the federal government would be "relieved" of the responsibility of managing the public lands within the new State. You guessed it - there is no Constitutional authority for the federal government to keep these lands upon statehood.
I planned for 100 given the family history. I planned for four times as much as I would need. I ended up with half the needed amount. However!!! The second one worked but I had to leave the country.
Did you hear Rush Limbaugh today talk about the college kid who called 911 because she saw a mouse in her apartment? The parents and teachers of these kids have turned them into the most babied and mindless generation ever. They have no life skills. But boy, do they know about global warming and endangered species.
Yeah, except the recruiters are all BA's, so they just write "Bachelor's Degree required" on everything and the high-level engineer who finds himself out of a job - and who didn't finish those last 3 hours of college and thus has no BSc - cannot convince them that being able to TEACH the damn classes is just as good as having TAKEN them 40 years ago and is thus unemployable. Letters after your name do not make you able to reason, as we see all around us. I've never really believed in teaching, and I may be getting more militant about the entire educational "area behind the curtain". morons.
My age is determined by how much whatever I'm contemplating doing is going to hurt, starting tomorrow, and for how long. I still pay the price, but the last few weeks have compelled me to add "sometimes" to that, some of the time. Bette Davis was right, growing old is not for sissies. or, 80 is the new 60.
he was attacking my right shoe!!! -- j
p.s. I think that kids should explore all of the predominant
spaghetti monsters, to know what they are and that
they are out there lurking.......
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I do like the way they couched teaching creationism into a bill called Academic Freedom. It is an excellent example of 'freedom' being spun until it is dizzy. Makes you want to teach the flying spaghetti monster, doesn't it?
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all about evolution, and some think in terms of creation;;;
we will explore them in that order." -- j
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Jan
"I believe that we violate the child's nature and render difficult the best ethical results, by introducing the child too abruptly to a number of special studies, of reading, writing, geography, etc., out of relation to this social life" and.
" I believe, therefore, that the true centre of correlation of the school subjects is not science, nor literature, nor history, nor geography, but the child's own social activities."
Though long dead, his ideas still rule our classrooms.
http://dewey.pragmatism.org/creed.htm
Then...I get chills.
they probably go to the E.R. over it. -- j
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was a way to have more friendly classrooms. . all of
the kids get participation ribbons the first day!!! -- j
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But seriously, I have watched them to no end because the reality of that history scares the crap out of me. And always has since being a kid in the 60's. I got enough history from school as a kid to be aware enough, but the in-depth history is intense.
In some ways the fact that these Hitler and WWII documentaries are so popular is that there is a healthy interest coming from the younger generations in that history. A lot of it starts with the basic question of Daddy (now granddaddy), what did you do during the war? And it just goes from there. But in that, there is a good sign for hope.
Example: I acquired a high school civics textbook published in 1894 written by a Constitutional scholar from Iowa. In it, he laid out how when the soon-to-become State of Utah would be admitted into the Union, the federal government would be "relieved" of the responsibility of managing the public lands within the new State. You guessed it - there is no Constitutional authority for the federal government to keep these lands upon statehood.
And this was being taught in High School. Gee.
I've never really believed in teaching, and I may be getting more militant about the entire educational "area behind the curtain". morons.
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