Oregon recently passed some new gun laws similar to the ones recently passed in Washington State. Perhaps we should let a few states pass extreme gun laws and then see how much more they get like Chicago, Washington DC, New Jersey. Of course however passing extreme laws in some states only gives them an excuse that crime goes up because guns are available in the state next door. What kind of sense does that make? Crime goes up because guns are no longer available here but still available in a the state next door? Give me a break. Perhaps that's why Chicago has so many shootings, because guns are available in other cities, or states, or countries.

More info is coming in.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/oreg...

Obama angrily blamed the murders on all who resist his control over innocent people. He tried to inflame and stampede people into pressuring Congress, governors and state legislators into supporting him, but did not mention the Constitutional limits on such government power or why they are there. He clearly want to 'amend' the Constitution to increase the dictatorial power he has been assuming, with or without a formal amendment.

jbrenner's falsely equating Krauthammer to Ayn Rand is not something to thank him for. Rejecting the misrepresentation of Ayn Rand is not something to "downvote".

The community college declares itself to be a "gun free zone", which is reportedly contrary to Oregon state law. One person on the campus has said that he has a right to carry a concealed weapon and was, but he was not in or near the classroom targeted and was unable to help..

This was based (as I heard it on the radio this morning) by one second-hand account (a victim's father's account), and has yet to be corroborated by anyone else.

When your right to life is threatened by another individual you have the right to defend yourself on equal terms as the perpetrator of the threat. If a government or public servant of a government wishes to deter or deny your right to self defense than they are in violation of your rights. I prefer to be responsible for my own defense rather than have someone else defend me! Molon Labe.

Charles Krauthammer just said that we should expect such mass shootings once in a while as a consequence of the fact that we have chosen liberty over security, and he thought (like an Objectivist) that the balance of liberty to security was appropriate.

Alek Skarlatos, one of the three people who stopped the Muslim terrorist train situation in France, attended the community college in Oregon where the latest shooting occurred. This might be a coincidence, but I generally don't believe in them. If this is an attack of revenge, then it is perfectly analogous to the Tom Clancy book and movie "Patriot Games".

The shooter asked the victims what their religion was.

The French train situation mentioning Alek Skarlatos is linked below:
http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/21/europe/...