What I am finding is that the advances in robots and robot parts are coming FROM china, Enables building robotic solutions much easier with less technical labor. In addition, German engineers are advancing robotic science a lot too. I dont see a lot of this with American skilled labor (if there is any left)

Except that then you would see an uptick in skilled labor - the people building, maintaining, and creating all the automatons. You also see an uptick in IT to handle the extra data.

A jobless recovery truly is a non sequitur.

And Forbes magazine has already interviewed several big business employers who also cited Obamacare as the primary reason they weren't hiring either - despite good cash flows.

Here's a couple of better numbers to look at:
Total population
Population employed (AKA Labor participation rate - currently at its lowest in 40+ years)
Average family income (down >$5000 under Obama)
U13 unemployment rate (a more realistic look)
# of people on government welfare, especially food stamps and WIC

The problem with looking at the U6 unemployment number is that it is based on the number of people actively looking for work and does not include those taking handouts.

In 2008, almost everyone in the Gulch could have predicted the employment record of 2015. My family is mostly very liberal. In other ways, they are super smart, but when it comes to politics, the mental disorder of liberalism takes over and and turns them into idiots. So, what do they say now? You'd be surprised as to how downright laughable their excuses are. The closest any of them has come to the reality that is Obama was when my cousin from Massachusetts' wife said, "His performance has been disappointing." I wanted to scream at her, "Disappointing? Is that all you can say? You have the political acuity of a fruit fly!!!"

100% right

I dont believe ANYTHING our government or media for that matter throws at us. Everything has hidden agendas to support something they want. The best I can do is attempt a translation to uncover their ulterior motives, and also to find facts (when available) to really find out whats going on. In my experience,non government jobs are becoming more scarce, particularly higher paying ones (except for the wall street type jobs that are being fed by federal reserve money printing). Government jobs are secure (for the time being) and pay a lot. Thats because they take in tax money at the point of a gun and arent held accountable for any results.

Except for certain circumstances, no business person in their right mind would WANT more USA employees if there is any other option. Who wants to CREATE jobs really along with all the downsides the government and the courts throw at us when we do create the jobs?

Low level jobs went to China (our little company sent some of those ourselves) because they work for less money than entitled Americans who refuse to accept that competition reduced their value.

But, middle and upper management jobs ALSO went to China too- not directly, but because the low level jobs here required middle and upper management people who are now no longer needed here. That helps account for the reduction in management jobs here in the USA.

In my company, we are trying as hard as we can to automate, robot-ize, and reduce employees to anticipate the $15/hr minimum wages, extra costs due to health care, and extensive new employee regulations. Frankly we hire only illegals to avoid the issues that are here already. When they make that impossible, we want to only need a small number of american legal employees.

I find the government numbers interesting. The number of unemployed increases and the number of employed increases. I believe the number of unemployed does increase each day let alone each month, but the employed well that is another bit of government b/s. Just like the unemployment rate staying at 5 percent, when you hear that you should be wearing waders and carrying a shovel. The government is employing every trick so to speak in the book to ignite the population to believe things are getting better, however, the population the greater part of it to include ghetto people know that things are not getting better. You just can't fake reality!!!!!!!!!

From 1948 to 2015, there were five periods when the 'unemployment rate' according to the BLS, was BELOW FIVE PERCENT. See link above, set dates to 1948 and 2015 and click "go" button.

Visually, the Average looks to be around SEVEN per cent over that Entire Time.

I refuted, not 'backed up' your statement. Sorry.

Michael, you also need to look at how many times the Debt Limit has been raised when the Debt approached the old limit.

First answer: MANY times.
Next answer: EVERY TIME.

When the Debt Limit is ALWAYS RAISED when the Debt approaches the Limit, c'mon... the "Limit" becomes meaningless!!!!!!

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Get it?

If he was a millionaire I hope he passed on some investing advice too. A starting point would be to do the wise things that caused him to build wealth.

I say don't worry about the marco issues if you don't understand them, like the topics of those stupid e-mails. Instead I would focus on investments in things where I can clearly understand why customers give them money and how they can get what they provide at a good price and make a profit.

Thanks for a couple of investment tips to to check out.
My recently passed away dad left my brothers and I a tidy inheritance. He was a millionaire.
I'll won't put too much of that into stocks.
Some of my "conservative" email is about the expectation of stock markets crashes, bubbles bursting and complete economic crashes leading to survival situations, but I've also noticed such email is about someone trying to sell me something.
I still expect something bad to happen with the gigantic debt Obama doubled.

One of the bad side effects (among many) of fiscal manipulations is that it takes away our ability to use money effectively. I'm always chasing moving targets The so called CPI is useless, and it's causing me to buy fewer big ticket items, become a coupon baby, go out to restaurants less, and otherwise keep my total expenses numerically the same year over year and therefore my standard of living lower each year. If everyone did this, our economy would slowly shrink

I have no idea.. :)
But ceteris paribus (sp?) ... the attempt to keep EVERYTHING ELSE the same while varying ONE variable so as to observe its effect... is way hard to do... especially in economics and Economies! :)

I'd guess, though, that if automation and/or improved efficiency could be looked at Alone, their effects probably would be to lower 'costs', hence 'cost of living.'

but IANAE (I Am Not An Economist) ... Thank whoever or whatever... :)