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Posted by lukenbocker 11 years, 2 months ago to News
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I think we need to stop naming kids DaQuan and ShaT'qua. We also need to spend more time with our kids and love them and make sure that God and Jesus are first in our lives.


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  • Posted by Robbie53024 11 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Methinks you are too sensitive.
    1) AR is not the absolute authority on the effects of belief.
    2) What guards against the "baddest ass on the block" philosophy without a religious aspect?
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  • Posted by dbhalling 11 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Actually christian cultures have fared very poorly. We can thank christians for the dark ages, the lose of how to make cement and many other inventions. The US and any common law country is based on Natural Rights, which are not christian in any sense.
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  • Posted by $ stargeezer 11 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Hi Rich, I'd like a answer. Are Christians unwelcome in the gulch? I'm an adult, if this the case I want know.
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  • Posted by dbhalling 11 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Open minded is a term people use when they cannot use logic and reason. If you have an argument based on logic, reason, evidence then I will listen. But you can't when it comes to a deity.

    I will give you one possible exception - a deist, which many of our founder fathers were. I still don't think it makes sense, but it doesn't hurt.
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  • Posted by Robbie53024 11 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    There are some that will call Mormonism a cult, or even a blasphemy. I must take it as another perspective on God.
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  • Posted by $ stargeezer 11 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I don't like priests either. They all are wrong about scripture. Every single one of them.

    BTW, God is not in church so by not going there, no dynamic is changed.

    Most of us live full lives which include knowledge, experience, family and still find room for religion. It's a part of our lives and we are not challenged by your intolerance and hatred of us because of our belief.

    You were very friendly to me until you discovered I was a Christian, then that changed, just like those who are down checking my posts here tonight. I don't understand that, but I have no heart burn with you for your unbelief. Be happy.
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  • Posted by Robbie53024 11 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You are right, there seem to be those here who have a cult of AR.
    I for one, find the debate invigorating. What I find less so are those who are closed minded. I'll tolerate them for some time, but when they show themselves to be mere bigots, I cut them loose.
    I do appreciate that the owners of the site do not impose restrictions in nearly any respect. It is self-restraint that keeps this site mostly rational and not irrational. Yet there are those who still verge on the irrational.
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    Posted by $ Maphesdus 11 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Fun fact: the Mormon church repudiates the concept of original sin, calling the doctrine an abomination, and teaches that any child who dies before the age of accountability (eight years old), is automatically saved, regardless of whether or not any ceremonies or religious rituals (such as baptism) have been preformed for them.
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    8 Listen to the words of Christ, your Redeemer, your Lord and your God. Behold, I came into the world not to call the righteous but sinners to repentance; the whole need no physician, but they that are sick; wherefore, little children are whole, for they are not capable of committing sin; wherefore the curse of Adam is taken from them in me, that it hath no power over them; and the law of circumcision is done away in me.
    9 And after this manner did the Holy Ghost manifest the word of God unto me; wherefore, my beloved son, I know that it is solemn mockery before God, that ye should baptize little children.
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    15 For awful is the wickedness to suppose that God saveth one child because of baptism, and the other must perish because he hath no baptism.
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    The Book of Mormon, Moroni chapter 8, verses 8, 9, & 15
    http://www.lds.org/scriptures/bofm/moro/...

    The Mormon church also has 13 Articles of Faith, the second of which states that “men will be punished for their own sins and not for Adam’s transgression.”
    http://www.lds.org/scriptures/pgp/a-of-f...
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  • Posted by Robbie53024 11 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You take AR's perspective at face value without critically thinking what it means. I say think for yourself. I see no inconsistency with believing in a God.
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  • Posted by $ stargeezer 11 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I told you that you were getting hysterical. I never said you were anti god, did I? As for being wrong, yes, you are. Nobody can damn your soul except you. You said that somebody told you that, I don't find the quote anywhere here, I know I never said that because it's theologically erroneous. If you want to believe that some mortal has that power, fine, but it's not biblical. And it's not a Christian view.

    As for you not wanting to allow any discussion of religious matters, if anybody reads your posts on this thread I'd suggest they won't draw any other conclusion.

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  • Posted by Hiraghm 11 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Most Christians are appalled by them.
    Just not the same way homosexuals are appalled at the Folsom Street Fair, or socialists (usually atheists) are appalled at the Occupy crowd.
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  • Posted by Hiraghm 11 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You'll have to explain this definition.
    You'll also have to explain the success of Christian cultures and the failure of atheist cultures. To wit, the United States vs every communist hellhole on the planet.
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  • Posted by Hiraghm 11 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    What a load...

    Nobody has to do drugs, nobody needs to do drugs.

    The illegality of drugs didn't kill Hoffman, or Belushi, or Ledger. They were all rich and easily able to obtain drugs; the highest quality drugs.
    They had no reason to DO drugs.

    You're implying that the people in this neighborhood are inherently drug addicts. That none of them could have been taught, as their grandparents were taught, to work and be responsible for their lives.

    The mothers become the sole economic provider in large part because of the artificial culture that took away the traditional morality of such neighborhoods. The morality that dictated that a man must work and support his family, that he must not do drugs.

    Why are they targeted for imprisonment? Because they break the law. The law doesn't say they can't have food or shelter or a job. The law says they can't use or distribute drugs. Under those circumstances, it's REAL easy to stay out of jail.
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  • Posted by Robbie53024 11 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Yes, there are those who believe that the old testament is the literal word of God. I believe that it is the literal interpretation of the legend of what happened based on the guidance of God. Humans are fallible, which includes getting the transcription of historical accounts misconstrued.
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  • Posted by $ stargeezer 11 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Please point to what rule of this site says discussion or mention of religion is not allowed on the gulch? If it is not, then I guess it's not the place of open minds and free thinking and I'll take producers fees and find another place to hang out.

    How about it Rich, are religious people not welcome here???? I'm serious. I've never met such a bunch of closed minded people in my life.

    I don't have to be here. But I bet some of you do. Keep on talking among yourselves telling yourselves just how all knowing you are, never challenging your preconceptions. I'm sure that's how Ayn Rand figured it all out.
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  • Posted by Robbie53024 11 years, 2 months ago
    While I certainly am not going to object to God and Jesus, that isn't the only way to bring the morality of these thugs more into line with what is commonly accepted as decent civilized behavior.
    The fact that they act this way, I think goes to prove my "baddest ass on the block" theory. Since they have not had a religious foundation instilled, and they have been taught not to fear the legal system, they adopt a hierarchy of power. And there is always someone at the top. Often that person is challenged and either remains victorious, in which the challenger is often dead, or loses, in which case the former BAOTB is almost assuredly dead.
    What we need is a resurgence of morality teaching in these communities. Unfortunately, the internal leadership of those communities is supported in subverting that objective in order to maintain power. And those who might have influence, such as Bill Cosby, are marginalized when they do speak up. And others such as Clarence Thomas, Ben Carson, Walter Williams, Herman Cain, Alan Keyes, etc., etc., etc. are vilely vilified.
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  • Posted by Hiraghm 11 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Uhh... God is already IN the Gulch. It's His Gulch.
    So what? John Galt is the only person who can be a liar and a cheat?

    Besides which, nothing in the oath bars religious belief, including a belief in God, or worship of God.
    The oath is to not live for another MAN'S sake. Doesn't say anything about not living for one's OWN sake.

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  • Posted by Hiraghm 11 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    And how many die because some people feel it's their right to do whatever the hell makes them happy? Thousands. Daily.

    And how many religions teach that God loves you?

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