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Families outraged after Illinois fails to pay out $288 million in lottery winnings

Posted by $ nickursis 9 years, 6 months ago to Government
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Now, this is an example of how a government can rewrite the law, do what it wants and openly commit fraud. They still sell tickets and then have no intention of paying.


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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Simple answer. Buy in non income tax states just in case you do win. Gives you an average 10% increase in prize value.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The government doesn't pay in most lotteries it's a private corporation that runs it for percentage of the take. When government gets involved as apparently happened in Illinois the greed and criminal activities begin. Illinois? Where else?

    Here's how it works for real. Prize for that week is announced minus the cut of the corporation and minus the cut of the sponsoring government.
    The remainder is held pending decision of the winner(s) then taxes are subtracted and unless people are stupid stupid stupid paid immediately AND anothere amount set aside for tax increases which no one knows until the year of the win is now the former year.

    Typically one half after the first skim goes to the government immediately which then taxes the paid out half as well. Win is 200 million option is 100 million now US and Arizona for example take 46% combined. Winner gets 54 million. On a 100 million win half that etc etc etc.

    The next step is the locust feast and the relatives feast and the friends feast....But if yiou can side step all of that the real problem is not where to invest it's to protect. What for treat that amount of the ready as risk capital? Especially when it means a. all those tax headaches and b. all those commissions on all those good deals - that aren't.

    What's needed is a good system for protection which to me means get it outside the clutches of the Obamacula's as fast as possible. At some point they are going to a. raise taxes and b. ban taking money outside the country. Nothing new about that.

    I cannot begin to understand people who are set for life who then worry about investments. Even inflation is unlikely to reduce it down to their current level of living. As for 'giving back?' What an idiotic statement. What the hell do they call the 3/4 o f the total that already went back?

    As for over 20 years or 30 years THAT takes someone with brass balls and a PhD in Risk Management.
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  • Posted by $ 9 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    William, I have no issue withthat, but the obligation is to pay for it, that is what some of the money is there for. The AR concept is good because it lets you decide what gov't is worth to you, it's "value". Although it has a snowballs chance in hell, since they know deep down we have essentially 0 value on it.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 9 years, 6 months ago
    What kind of person can come from such a place as Illinois? Talk about fruit of the poisonous tree.
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  • Posted by $ CBJ 9 years, 6 months ago
    How many of these Illinois lottery winners voted for Obama, who carried the state in 2012 by 57% to 40%? Poetic justice for those people - they got what they believe in and voted for, their income has been "redistributed" and their wealth has been "shared".
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  • Posted by $ WilliamShipley 9 years, 6 months ago
    There seems to be a lot of hostility toward the concept of the government running a lottery. Didn't Ayn Rand suggest funding government through a lottery as a form of voluntary taxation?

    Of course the government has to pay when you win.
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  • Posted by GaryL 9 years, 6 months ago
    Any financial planner, tax attorney or accountant will advise jack pot winners to take the lump sum pay out every time! If a state defaults on it's obligations the payments for lottery winners will be the first to stop!
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  • Posted by bsmith51 9 years, 6 months ago
    That the lottery stupidity tax funds government "education" is a flagrant conflict of interest, given that such "education" keeps the lottery going.
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  • Posted by fivedollargold 9 years, 6 months ago
    Any data on how many lottery tix they have sold since this fraud was announced?
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  • Posted by $ TomB666 9 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Even though there is a Republican governor now, the legislature is still tightly controlled by the same Democrats who have caused these problems.
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  • Posted by Blanco 9 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Yeah, I get so tired of hearing what a great hero of liberty Lincoln was -- great point!
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  • Posted by $ prof611 9 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    That's unbelievable! Is the video available online? I'd like to see this machine in operation.
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  • Posted by freedomforall 9 years, 6 months ago
    Lincoln's union at work.
    How do Lincoln lovers think the looting scum was elected?
    Illinois has been a good example of socialist democracy since 1860.
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    Posted by khalling 9 years, 6 months ago
    Illinois is by far the most corrupt state I ever lived in. When Rostenkowski was indicted for mail fraud as a US Representative-you could not find one local news station in Chicago to report on it. The voter fraud was unbearable, but I think it might be worse in St. Louis, where we also lived.
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  • Posted by robgambrill 9 years, 6 months ago
    In Missouri, all the funds from the Stupidity Tax go towards education (well supposedly). The game is rigged for the majority of players to lose, and the government gets a slush fund.

    Lots of Laptops, Smartboards, and other high tech junk, but for some reason, test scores continue to drop?
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