Say what you will, but we now have a Libertarian as Speaker of the House.

Posted by Zero 9 years, 6 months ago to News
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Maybe I just have lower standards for politicians - but I'm kinda pleased about this.

Will it make any difference - I don't know - probably not. Seems its all bad news lately.

But I'll take what I can get.
We now have a person with strong free-market views 3rd in line for the Presidency!
Ha!


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  • Posted by freedomforall 9 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Of course we remember.
    We also remember what the Bush family has done, and it's worse than Bill Clinton.
    Dole? What a looting slime.
    Wake up, Zero.
    The two parties are one. They are complicit in the destruction of liberty. They are evil.
    Don't vote for evil.
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  • Posted by fosterj717 9 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Trust me on this....the damage at this point is almost completely irreversible and voting for people that will get us to the cliff just a little bit slower means that we go off the cliff no matter what.

    We continue to vote for Frack because Frack is not quite as Progressive (or stupid) as Frick. Never the less, the damage will be the same!

    I for one have had it with that line of thinking! I will not give aid and comfort to the other guy (who for the most part is a fraud him/her self. I will only vote for those who show that they are the real deals by their actions.

    This is what I owe myself, my family and my friends, neighbors and fellow citizens. Don't just settle! It's not worth the cost to your conscience...
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  • Posted by fosterj717 9 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Of course he does, he is the darling of the NEOCON establishment! He is not Tea Party, he is not a small government R and he is not a true Statesman ala Cicero.

    He is a denizen of the DC Beltway where everything is run by lobbyists and oligarchs. That is the reason that perhaps these folks might stay closer to their principles if they spent more time at home in their districts and only about 2 weeks in DC to actually vote on bills.

    This is how to get our leadership back to sanity and reality. God knows those are two commodities that do not exist in Washington.
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  • Posted by fosterj717 9 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Good points however most of us even though we consider ourselves to be in the "Gulch" will have to live and suffer with whatever the bozos in DC feed us.

    The paradigm must shift if we are ever again to truly live free. What we are getting now is just one nail after another in the coffin holding our dear departed Freedoms.

    We don't need another Captain on what is becoming a "Prison Ship of State"....We need someone who still believes in the US Constitution, small government, and is going to be a better steward of how our hard-earned tax monies are being spent.

    Let's see if this guy has any principles that follow those simple tenets. I for one don't think he has...
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  • Posted by fosterj717 9 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Typical slight of hand trick by the Moderate/Establishment (RINO) wing of the Republican party......Stick us with another sad-sack loser.

    Let's see how long it takes him to show that he is either just John Boehner-lite...or maybe a surprise that we can live with.

    My money is on Boehner-lite!
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  • Posted by JCLanier 9 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Foster: if you took the time to read the referenced comments you would have answered your own question..,!
    Go find Esceptico's comment and read before you accuse!!!!
    I'm not going to give you the answer- go find it and when you do then we will see who the "bonehead" is.
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  • Posted by fosterj717 9 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You speak the mind of many of us! Good job laying out our culpability and our responsibilities going forward.

    Let's double our efforts looking for Statesmen and Women who can get the job done. They exist even though they are usually attacked and destroyed by the sheep of this nation and the MSM that guide them.

    For what its worth!
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  • Posted by fosterj717 9 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    And what are you trying to sell? Obama snake oil?

    Say hi to George Soros and the rest of the oligarchs on both sides for me...
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  • Posted by fosterj717 9 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    And which bonehead statement did he make?! I assume that you are a Boehner supporter......

    Everything in his posting is gospel. The only exception that I take (he is better then Boehner, that much I will concede) is that he will still be an Establishment/Moderate who will continue the damage that Boehner and his cronies have done to date.

    The end-game will be giving Obama and his minions everything that he wants. To hell with the rest of us!!
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  • Posted by fosterj717 9 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    That is a very sound observation!

    His record does not indicate that he is an independent thinker but rather an astute "Poiltician" as opposed to a strongly principled "Statesman".

    I'll take a statesman any day!
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  • Posted by freedomforall 9 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    There is only one major party with two names to confuse the voters, and it is the statist party. Call it the government party if you like; I won't argue.
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  • Posted by fosterj717 9 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    No! Principled voter!

    Enough of voting for the "lesser of two evils" being that evil is still evil.

    We have been following that silly path and look where it has gotten us!

    Besides, Truth be told, both major parties are run by the same oligarchy and are the power of the folks that Ayn Rand wrote about.

    It is about time that the country wakes up and understands that both parties (run by their respective "Establishments" are leading us hand in hand down the path shown in Atlas Shrugged.

    For what its worth!
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  • Posted by richrobinson 9 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The TEA party successfully defeated some Republican establishment candidates in primaries over the last few election cycles. Some won and some lost in the general elections. Whenever a TEA party backed candidate lost the Republican establishment cried- told you so. They denounced them as extreme and proclaimed their candidate would have won. The problem is that most establishment candidates differ little from the Democrats. I think the RNC has a love hate relationship with the TEA party movement. They see them as a solid voting block but also as too extreme. The TEA party is upsetting the way the political game is played.
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  • Posted by fosterj717 9 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I agree however one must differentiate between "Crony" Capitalism (Obama's form) also known as Market Socialism and "True" Free Market capitalism.
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  • Posted by fosterj717 9 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I assume you supported the "real" Astroturf movement started by the Democrats, that being Move-on and Occupy Wallstreet so would make such a ill-informed statement about the Tea Party.

    You obviously never attended or participated in a Tea Party have you? I can assure you that the Republicans tried early on to co-opt the TP however they failed (having 80 members of the Freedom Caucus proves that beyond a doubt).

    So, for the sake of intellectual integrity I suggest that you reconsider such an obviously ill-informed statement. That is unless you are just a Progressive troll hanging out on this blog.....
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  • Posted by fosterj717 9 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I can assure you friend that is absolute rubbish! I and the folks I am associated with take on the Republicans and hold them to the same standards we hold the rest.

    People who haven't a clue would make such a silly statement. Who do you think put the 80 members of the Freedom Caucus in? Santa Clause or John Boehner.

    I suggest before making statements like that you dig a little deeper and use critical thinking to test your statements.
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  • Posted by fosterj717 9 years, 6 months ago
    I for one think that he is exactly who the Republican establishment really wanted!

    He will be Boehner lite if for no other reason he is a part of the Beltway. Granted every once in a while he sounds Conservative or Libertarian however his voting record indicates something much more "moderate".

    I for one am dubious that he is the leader that the Republican party really needs at this juncture!
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You are getting there I'm posting a summation in a few hours. Left from the French word for the direction Sinistere which today means something dark and evil. Gauche Like Gosh with a long oh meaning lacking in social graces stumbling bumbling...Look it up the original french point the direction. Spanish is esquerda and derecha for left and right and straight ahead for derecho also meaning correct path. Basquie and some Celtic origin as loan words to Latin are common. as for definitions here are those denoting type of political parties and systems. Notice conservative is mentioned once and liberal not at all even fascist is not included. the first two have entirely different meanings and fascist is across the board if applied and very common.

    Political spectrum

    Post-left Ultra-left Far-left Left-wing
    Centre-left
    Centre/Radical centre
    Centre-right
    Right-wing Far-right/Radical right: United States - Europe

    Party platform

    Extremist Radical
    Reformist Moderate
    Syncretic
    Conservative Reactionary
    Fundamentalist

    Party system

    Non-partisan Single-party
    Dominant-party Two-party Multi-party

    Coalition

    Hung parliament Confidence and supply Minority government Rainbow coalition Grand coalition Full coalition

    National Unity government
    Majority government

    Words have meanings. That is they did until PC.
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  • Posted by edweaver 9 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    My definition of center is anything left of what the founding Fathers (right wing extremist of their time) established when they set up this country. But I get what you are saying only I don't believe right is so wrong. Right is....right, left is...lol
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  • Posted by edweaver 9 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    These things are all wonderful. Unfortunately IMHO his voting record as of late has reflected that he either was not paying attention, forgot what he learned or has become part of the Establishment.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Being as non voter is one of the few choices left in a corrupt voting system that denies freedom of choice to all but the a select two and worse steals the opposition votes cast by any method and give them to the opposition. Being a non -registrant is worse. Registering and not voting is the only statistic left to influence. Prez years that's 50-55 percent. votng and 45 percent choosing none of the above. non prez years it s around 35 percent voting and 65% choosing none of the above. Divide either of those two means at best only one third of the nation less than 20% even with the stolen votes elect a candidate in the essentially meaningless popular vote. No way that's a mandate nor a landslide even if they took ALL the votes cast.
    Condemnation of a failed system and a Vote of No Confidence is a better description. But it's all we have left. Voting at the local level and refusing to vote for any of the major party candidates is a possibility and another choice. Voting for no candidates and only on measures is another one.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    If applied by yourself to your other writings should provide - for you - a suitable answer. It was not a condemnation. Sort of a lifeline or a way to review your own system and self evaluate the worth to yourself. It's oh dark early I'm going back to sleep and contemplate my sins of mixing up there and their with finger memory.
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