Illegal immigrants release ‘Bill of Rights’ - Demand citizenship, birth certificates, medical care

Posted by ShrugInArgentina 9 years, 5 months ago to News
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"An immigrant-rights group proposed a “Bill of Rights” for illegal immigrants Thursday, demanding that Americans recognize there are millions already in the country who deserve health care, in-state tuition rates for college and a guarantee of citizenship in the long term."





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  • Posted by conscious1978 9 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Your premises regarding Objectivism and immigration are presumptive. Immigrant looters and moochers would have no traction for their irrational demands were it not for the corrupt political power of U.S. citizen looters and moochers in government office.

    If your leg is caught in a bear trap, you don't wrap a bandage around all of it, hoping it will keep out infection. Your first action should be to remove the bear trap.
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  • Posted by khalling 9 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I think it is a mistake to assume that all immigrants are not of noble character. Gulilty because they are displaced Men.
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  • Posted by khalling 9 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    once again, your definition of "home" is not my definition nor most Objectivists" definition, including Ayn Rand. As well, people are individuals until they prove to be "rats." Germany "offers" political asylum. They "offer" assistance and training. It is up to the German people to stem the tide of socialism that allows the influx. Trust me, if I were a syrian political refugee-I'd take them up on their offer-freely-and I'd "disappear" as thousands are doing. You get no assistance by disappearing but you don't have to be shunted into makeshift camps either.
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  • Posted by $ jbrenner 9 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    See nickursis' comment below: "It's like the rats demanding to be fed with the dog and the cat in the kitchen because they chewed through the wall and entered your home. Would you do that?"
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  • Posted by $ nickursis 9 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I would think that in itself is a violation of Objectivist principles. I thought Objectivists would not demand of other, but themselves.
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  • Posted by $ nickursis 9 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    prof, I do not see where this is just "travel freely" alone. They are asking for numerous handouts, authority and validation to engage in obtaining free items of value they have had NO connection to. Simply because they managed to slip in illegally and our government is too incompetent to both stop and remove them. It's like the rats demanding to be fed with the dog and the cat in the kitchen because they chewed through the wall and entered your home. Would you do that?
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  • Posted by $ nickursis 9 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Stop!! Giving the Obamanation ideas is strictly forbidden! Make the jerk think them up on his own. God knows he has done enough damage.
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  • Posted by $ nickursis 9 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    What the $#@%%$ do you mean? I don't @$%^$#! care about ^%%$*! language. Get the #^$@! over it!
    Thanks Dog!
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  • Posted by $ FredTheViking 9 years, 5 months ago
    These posts kind of annoy me. I believe that people should have the basic right of mobility. But I had a thought! If we end the drug war and get rid of social programs... Then we won't have an immigration problem anymore. So let's get on that! :)
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  • Posted by $ Susanne 9 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    If you knew why I wrote it, you would know no thanks are necessary... (Tip o' the hat to Hank Rearden)...
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  • Posted by HugoCabret 9 years, 5 months ago
    The illegal aliens' composition is hardly a "Bill of Rights", rather a "Bill of Demands".
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 5 months ago
    Other than opinion what are the facts. Define millions. Define deserving. Define guarantee of citizenship. Since you are not speaking as an objectivist I thought I would ask the obvious question. Lest someone think they are objectivist viewpoints.

    Now we are in the right spot. Lakoff country!

    Not sure why a comment aimed at the top keep threading under Mcnabs post..... supposed to be under Evito
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I'm just putting this here to separate my zero from the rest of the good stuff. Then we can pretend to work for what they pretend to pay. Learning neither language be it hopeful nor offered in despair but study the one system which will prove most useful. Marksmanship.
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  • Posted by $ prof611 9 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I really don't understand your reply to my post. Did you not say, "by allowing illegal immigrants to have the "right to travel freely", America has condoned their code of values"? How does allowing them to travel freely imply that America has condoned their code of values?

    And did you not say, "Objectivists have mistakenly presumed that all immigrants are of noble character"? Again, what does this have to do with the existence of open borders?
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